One of the current bottom three will escape relegation...

[West Acton]

You might have run the white flag up, but no need to call your fellow supporters fantasists because they still believe. You should be ashamed of yourself for criticising people who will still cheer the team on in the hope we can survive.

Is that what supporting QPR has come to?

Hmmmm let me think Rich Na im not

As for supporting team I will continue to do so with blind faith as I have every game this season baring two matches

Call it fantasists, call it denial, call it whatever you like but you and a few others are refusing to acknowledge what is before us all you lot do is offer excuses. I'm still waiting for the away form to pick up as that's what the super positive crew promised was going to happen from burnley onwards

[maidstone_hoop]

We got a fighters chance!! We are underdogs atm and I quite like that!! A few teams might turn up and think they can role us over and might get a surprise!!

Newcastle at home I would fancy!! Hopefully leicestwr away as they should be relegated and west brom and villa are the games our boys really need to stand up and be counted!!

[Harryboy]

You might have run the white flag up, but no need to call your fellow supporters fantasists because they still believe. You should be ashamed of yourself for criticising people who will still cheer the team on in the hope we can survive.

Is that what supporting QPR has come to?

We don't need white flags, just white hankys will do

[QPR Richard]

Hmmmm let me think Rich Na im not

As for supporting team I will continue to do so with blind faith as I have every game this season baring two matches

Call it fantasists, call it denial, call it whatever you like but you and a few others are refusing to acknowledge what is before us all you lot do is offer excuses. I'm still waiting for the away form to pick up as that's what the super positive crew promised was going to happen from burnley onwards

Well if you think it's right to have a pop at fellow fans for believing, you crack on, no point in trying to convince you otherwise. Shameful behaviour towards fellow QPR fans in my opinion though.

I'm not offering excuses for our results, show me where I have. Let's see your evidence. You won't find me excusing poor performance and poor results.

I know we've been playing rubbish, I accept that, but what I think is wrong is for you to get all high and mighty because some of us are hoping we'll survive. I'm not giving up hope until it's confirmed, and not before.

Better hope the players don't continue to cave in like some of you lot have, eh?

[West Acton]

Well if you think it's right to have a pop at fellow fans for believing, you crack on, no point in trying to convince you otherwise. Shameful behaviour towards fellow QPR fans in my opinion though.

I'm not offering excuses for our results, show me where I have. Let's see your evidence. You won't find me excusing poor performance and poor results.

I know we've been playing rubbish, I accept that, but what I think is wrong is for you to get all high and mighty because some of us are hoping we'll survive. I'm not giving up hope until it's confirmed, and not before.

Better hope the players don't continue to cave in like some of you lot have, eh?

So is it ok for you to criticise fans who don't have the same faith or acceptance that you have??

And who have I criticised by saying fantasists is there any difference been that and calling fans negative for stating their view??

[West Acton]

Also for the record I also hope we survive and still harbour hopes we will but as every away game comes and goes with yet another defeat chalked up with zero resistance offered by the team and with home efforts now resembling the away ones please forgive me if the hope is quickly disappearing regardless of the points situation of the table

[nasser95]

So is it ok for you to criticise fans who don't have the same faith or acceptance that you have??

And who have I criticised by saying fantasists is there any difference been that and calling fans negative for stating their view??

The definition of a fan is someone who supports the team regardless of what is happening. It means not giving up when everything is against us. Wembley showed that the underdogs can pull it out of the bag, why should we accept fans who have already prepared themselves for the worst? That is not what a fan does. If you want to be a realist and enjoy being a fan, support chelsea or man city. at QPR, we know we aren't great but one thing we never do is give up and it is embarrassing for me as a fan to see people doing that when things could be a lot worse.

[QPR Richard]

So is it ok for you to criticise fans who don't have the same faith or acceptance that you have??

And who have I criticised by saying fantasists is there any difference been that and calling fans negative for stating their view??

Didn't you say in a post the difference between fantasists and realists?

There's a good chance we might go down, the odds are in favour, however, there's still a chance we can get out of this, IF the players start performing. If you, as a die hard fan have given up, why should the players give a ####?

That's why we ALL have to keep going until the end, fans and players alike. If not, we might as well all pack up and p!ss off.

I support QPR and will keep the faith until the end. Care to join me?

[QPR Richard]

We don't need white flags, just white hankys will do

Perhaps those who have accepted relegation should wave a white hanky at the next game to show your feelings.

[bushcelt1]

If some of you lot had been around during biblical times jesus could have cured your blindness.

[West Acton]

The definition of a fan is someone who supports the team regardless of what is happening. It means not giving up when everything is against us. Wembley showed that the underdogs can pull it out of the bag, why should we accept fans who have already prepared themselves for the worst? That is not what a fan does. If you want to be a realist and enjoy being a fan, support chelsea or man city. at QPR, we know we aren't great but one thing we never do is give up and it is embarrassing for me as a fan to see people doing that when things could be a lot worse.

Nasser with the greatest of respect your a clown and I am sure I don't just speak for myself when I say go f uck yourself. You have a habit of talking down to people and thinking your in the right and know it all with your b ollocks stats which actually make you look like a bit of a prat.

So you my friend go and support Chelsea or man utd or bash some more meaniless stats out on your calculater you prize k nobhead.

I will happily debate with Richard and take his views on board as he is a poster I respect and enjoy reading although we have disagreed before on topics but you I can not take seriously although I have tried you rear cavity

If I have offended anyone with the above I apologise and i accept any punishment admin dish out but I was brought up with the saying if it looks like a t urd and smells like a t urd the chances are it is a t urd and you Nasser are a steaming one

[Alanwycombe]

The definition of a fan is someone who supports the team regardless of what is happening. It means not giving up when everything is against us. Wembley showed that the underdogs can pull it out of the bag, why should we accept fans who have already prepared themselves for the worst? That is not what a fan does. If you want to be a realist and enjoy being a fan, support chelsea or man city. at QPR, we know we aren't great but one thing we never do is give up and it is embarrassing for me as a fan to see people doing that when things could be a lot worse.

You know what Nasser, you are so up yourself it's embarrassing. Who are you to criticise fans being realistic rather than wear your rose tinted specs? We are entitled to feel pee'd off with the showings this season when so few extra points would see us safe - points that have been squandered needlessly. Most of us don't expect miracles but when you look around the Prem this year it's such a waste to be where we are when it's so poor. This board is for opinions and in my opinion you talk a load of carp.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Nah i like nasser and richard. They are showing much to much faith, but thats not a bad thing, same as us who know its done isnt either. Nobodys wrong, but season end when we are down their faith will look as wrong to them as we already see it now. The main reason we know its done, is cos its rangers, its what we do. Miracles is not what we do.

[Alanwycombe]

Nah i like nasser and richard. They are showing much to much faith, but thats not a bad thing, same as us who know its done isnt either. Nobodys wrong, but season end when we are down their faith will look as wrong to them as we already see it now. The main reason we know its done, is cos its rangers, its what we do. Miracles is not what we do.

Fair point Kevin but I've been here since '63 so I don't need a knob like Nasser telling me that if I hold the views I do that I shouls support Scum or Man Utd. He talks about faith etc. but I've kept that when we were really crap over the years. I hated going to school the first time we were in the top flight, the only R in my year. Nasser hasn't got a clue how much this latest #### up hurts.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Fair point Kevin but I've been here since '63 so I don't need a knob like Nasser telling me that if I hold the views I do that I shouls support Scum or Man Utd. He talks about faith etc. but I've kept that when we were really crap over the years. I hated going to school the first time we were in the top flight, the only R in my year. Nasser hasn't got a clue how much this latest #### up hurts.

Perfectly put al mate, poetry.