am I right in thinking...

[QPRDave]

I was watching and was pig sick.....!

you and me both .....the fact they have live pics of the fans behind him made it just that little bit worse too....

[bushcelt1]

Pointless making a good save one minute then completely loosing concentration the next, if you had been there or indeed went to matches you would understand how over rated he is. Watch match of the day he actually dived forward as the ball hit the net. Oh just a small point but Barton was also mentioned and far more at fault

you never appear when he saves us every other week tho. your lone crusade against green makes you look like a plum.

[rainham r]

Rickyranger how many games have you been to Robert green has been excellent this season main reason we won at Sunderland and almost got a point today.our biggest problem is not putting out a settled side week in week out due to injuries and management tinkering.still some of us believe in the players that's what supporting your team is all about.

[Garyd73]

Not sure that critiquing the subs made when you weren't at the game is a good idea, no one here as far as I know was on our bench either so knows if Charlie was injured or asked to come off as he was feeling it.

[rickyranger]

you never appear when he saves us every other week tho. your lone crusade against green makes you look like a plum.

It seems this plum opinion is shared by those in football, considering no one has wanted him on a free on the last two occasions his contract has run down. As I have said its no good making a decent reaction save one minute then conceding a soft one the next. If you are happy with a keeper that makes decent reaction saves, in other words decent when he doesn't need to move his feet or come off his line then fine. You will find most professional keepers are good at that, what makes a keeper is his ability to move his feet and dominate his area, Green is poor at both.

Watch yesterday's goal all he had to do was come for a ball in his 6 yard box and the goal doesn't happen, reality is he is slow to react, mis-judges the ball and does his superman impression as the striker steps in front to head into an empty net. As a side note the vast majority of fans around me yesterday were of a similar opinion about Green.

[Stanley]

It seems this plum opinion is shared by those in football, considering no one has wanted him on a free on the last two occasions his contract has run down. As I have said its no good making a decent reaction save one minute then conceding a soft one the next. If you are happy with a keeper that makes decent reaction saves, in other words decent when he doesn't need to move his feet or come off his line then fine. You will find most professional keepers are good at that, what makes a keeper is his ability to move his feet and dominate his area, Green is poor at both.

Watch yesterday's goal all he had to do was come for a ball in his 6 yard box and the goal doesn't happen, reality is he is slow to react, mis-judges the ball and does his superman impression as the striker steps in front to head into an empty net. As a side note the vast majority of fans around me yesterday were of a similar opinion about Green.

If all these 'experts' you mention can see it, why can't CR and his team (and HR beforehand) also see it and play McCarthy instead?

[Rangers77]

I thought- and said- yesterday Green was at fault for their second. He wasn't. I was wrong. Keeper can't defend a near post header. Caulker had to get to that. And Yun stop the cross. But it was a quality cross and a very good header. Greens first save was amazing. We have many, many problems other than Rob Green. Name me the points he's cost us this season. And then those he's saved us.

[nasser95]

Tell you what ricky, get in goal and get to a front post header ahead of the striker, with the pace that ball was whipped in at and the height that N'doye reached. You have still totally ignored the save he made prior to that and the saves he has made all season to keep us in the division.

[rickyranger]

Ok you guys win last post on the subject, have a look at where he headed it from, a near post header is either level with or before the near post, it was practically central!

[nasser95]

Ok you guys win last post on the subject, have a look at where he headed it from, a near post header is either level with or before the near post, it was practically central!

Don't think you have your glasses on mate, take another look, he is basically just in that front post region. Rio was covering and pulled away, forces Caulker to cover him but he is already at a disadvantage because he isn't goalside of N'doye seeing as he was marking someone else. I did blame Caulks but I've looked plenty of times and it is Rio's fault for pulling away from N'doye.
Also, green dived into the middle because N'doye made a very very late jump for that. He didn't look like he was gonna go for it until the last second. It was heading to that middle bit where green was moving into so he did absolutely the right thing there.

[rickyranger]

Bit bored with this now, but don't let the truth get in the way of your argument, the header is made just right of centre as green looked on, a yard inside the 6 yard box. If you don't think Green plays a part in that then fair enough but don't change the location of the header.

Fact is we were narrow from first ball, Furlong (not Yun as stated above) was a little slow to get out and their striker drifted in between Ferdinand, who was in front, and Caulker who was marking second striker. Ferdinand was trying to cover the near post, Caulker could have moved across but if the ball had been played longer that could have been a problem. Green made a decision to come for it (ironic as he never does) and completely misjudged the flight. Guess we can see why he stays on his line all the time, but in this case if he had he would probably have saved it as it did the similar header a moment earlier.

[nasser95]

Bit bored with this now, but don't let the truth get in the way of your argument, the header is made just right of centre as green looked on, a yard inside the 6 yard box. If you don't think Green plays a part in that then fair enough but don't change the location of the header.

Fact is we were narrow from first ball, Furlong (not Yun as stated above) was a little slow to get out and their striker drifted in between Ferdinand, who was in front, and Caulker who was marking second striker. Ferdinand was trying to cover the near post, Caulker could have moved across but if the ball had been played longer that could have been a problem. Green made a decision to come for it (ironic as he never does) and completely misjudged the flight. Guess we can see why he stays on his line all the time, but in this case if he had he would probably have saved it as it did the similar header a moment earlier.

http://www.okgoals.com/match-highlights-1424547726---40

Skip over to 3.18 and take a look at where the header position is. I wouldn't call that centre of the net. That is about as near post as you can get without grinding it.
Here is a photo of the moment the contact is made. Notice the black line highlighting the line at which n'doye meets the ball in the air. This is very much a near post header. If ferdinand is supposed to cover the near post, I fear he has done it very wrong. Also earlier in the clip you will see that N'doye jumps at the last second, giving green, who has already committed to the danger at the far post, no chance of making the ball under any circumstances.

[rickyranger]

T

http://www.okgoals.com/match-highlights-1424547726---40
Skip over to 3.18 and take a look at where the header position is. I wouldn't call that centre of the net. That is about as near post as you can get without grinding it.
Here is a photo of the moment the contact is made. Notice the black line highlighting the line at which n'doye meets the ball in the air. This is very much a near post header. If ferdinand is supposed to cover the near post, I fear he has done it very wrong. Also earlier in the clip you will see that N'doye jumps at the last second, giving green, who has already committed to the danger at the far post, no chance of making the ball under any circumstances.

Dear oh dear don't you do angles and how they can distort perspective look at it from behind either goal. Was there mate and watched it again just off centre, bored now believe what you want.

According to your angle Green is diving outside his near post !!!!!!

[nasser95]

T

Dear oh dear don't you do angles and how they can distort perspective look at it from behind either goal. Was there mate and watched it again just off centre, bored now believe what you want.

According to your angle Green is diving outside his near post !!!!!!

That line was drawn perfectly in line with the line of the 6 yard box and moved into the position it is. Everything here was done to proportion so I don't really think what your eyes saw was accurate relative to a camera, this is the fact of it.

[rickyranger]

That line was drawn perfectly in line with the line of the 6 yard box and moved into the position it is. Everything here was done to proportion so I don't really think what your eyes saw was accurate relative to a camera, this is the fact of it.

Ok mate if you say so