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  • #16
    Will he be doing player contracts as well, has he done something like this before?

    We need someone who will stop clubs/players taking us for a ride with both transfer fee and contracts.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MYU View Post
      Will he be doing player contracts as well, has he done something like this before?

      We need someone who will stop clubs/players taking us for a ride with both transfer fee and contracts.
      Rather Les than Phil effing Beard. At least he's a football man with experience in the game - on and off the pitch.

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      • #18
        Phil Beard has experience of contracts. I doubt Sir Les has much. It is all about putting people in roles who work together. Same as any business.

        I don't buy the criticism of Beard. For me he has done well getting done what he has. We aren't exactly a magnet for players.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
          Phil Beard has experience of contracts.
          Not footballing contracts. Very different kettle of fish. Beard has been responsible for negotiating some god-awful contracts with players since he's been at the club.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Stanley View Post
            Not footballing contracts. Very different kettle of fish. Beard has been responsible for negotiating some god-awful contracts with players since he's been at the club.
            He has more experience than Les right now.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MYU View Post
              He has more experience than Les right now.
              His track record at QPR has been atrocious. Hardly surprising as he'd had no prior experience. Once again another naive TF appointment.

              Why do you think Les has now been given the role?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                His track record at QPR has been atrocious. Hardly surprising as he'd had no prior experience. Once again another naive TF appointment.

                Why do you think Les has now been given the role?
                As we all know Tony is naive and trusts people to easily, if it wasn't Les it would've been someone else.

                I love Les and he's one of my Hero's at QPR, all I want is the best for this club and prevent the same disasters from striking us again.

                It's not about who I want, it's about what's right for the club.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MYU View Post
                  As we all know Tony is naive and trusts people to easily, if it wasn't Les it would've been someone else.

                  I love Les and he's one of my Hero's at QPR, all I want is the best for this club and prevent the same disasters from striking us again.

                  It's not about who I want, it's about what's right for the club.
                  haven't some of these disasters been under PB watch
                  Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                  • #24
                    By Premiership standards we are not appealing to players. We have a tiny old fashioned stadium, are relegation fodder in this division and over recent years have been a joke of a football club. The Gianni years, Tango and Cash. Most players would choose any of the other 19 clubs over us and maybe even some of the better Championship clubs.

                    What this means is that to get players to join we have had to pay over the odds and include clauses in their contracts we may not necessarily like.

                    Beard doesn't choose the players. My understanding is that he is told who we want to sign and has some input into trying to get them, how much input I don't know. Might be whole negotiations, might just be player contracts. I think bearing in mind the context he has done pretty well for us.

                    We all know there have been a number of occasions we have successfully agreed terms with players only for them to procrastinate and wait to see if a better club comes along. Not much the club, and Beard in particular, can do about that.

                    Until we are hopefully better established and have more going for us this is how negotiations are going to go unless we do change focus along lines of what club now says in targeting young hungry players to who joining QPR may be a step up as opposed to a step down or maybe sideways.

                    I have no idea if Beard is good or not but I don't think any of us have any reasonable way of knowing. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but nothing more than gut feeling.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 12321 View Post
                      Honestly I love Sir Les, but we could do without this PR twaddle about bleeding blue and white (I know, TF's words not his)and how much this job means to him etc.
                      if there was one thing I would like to wind the clock back on it would be the day the club began issuing empty corporate announcements full of fatuous empty meaningless cliches. Apart from that I'm good.
                      Technically, Spurs play in blue and white.

                      Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                      Not footballing contracts. Very different kettle of fish. Beard has been responsible for negotiating some god-awful contracts with players since he's been at the club.
                      He has mate. I was about to defend him on that though, to a degree, then saw that Furtive Fox has already done it very well.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                        By Premiership standards we are not appealing to players. We have a tiny old fashioned stadium, are relegation fodder in this division and over recent years have been a joke of a football club. The Gianni years, Tango and Cash. Most players would choose any of the other 19 clubs over us and maybe even some of the better Championship clubs.

                        What this means is that to get players to join we have had to pay over the odds and include clauses in their contracts we may not necessarily like.

                        Beard doesn't choose the players. My understanding is that he is told who we want to sign and has some input into trying to get them, how much input I don't know. Might be whole negotiations, might just be player contracts. I think bearing in mind the context he has done pretty well for us.

                        We all know there have been a number of occasions we have successfully agreed terms with players only for them to procrastinate and wait to see if a better club comes along. Not much the club, and Beard in particular, can do about that.

                        Until we are hopefully better established and have more going for us this is how negotiations are going to go unless we do change focus along lines of what club now says in targeting young hungry players to who joining QPR may be a step up as opposed to a step down or maybe sideways.

                        I have no idea if Beard is good or not but I don't think any of us have any reasonable way of knowing. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but nothing more than gut feeling.
                        Good well written Fox.

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                        • #27
                          People wanted a football man at director level, the board has got one, and a Rangers legend at that.

                          It still won't stop people moaning about the board though.
                          Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                            Beard doesn't choose the players. My understanding is that he is told who we want to sign and has some input into trying to get them, how much input I don't know. Might be whole negotiations, might just be player contracts. I think bearing in mind the context he has done pretty well for us.
                            My understanding was that it was left to Beard to deal with most of the contracts and negotiations, because at the time there was simply no one else hands-on at the club to do it, and certainly never an experienced football man. This had been my criticism all along and I've always made it clear I've never blamed Beard himself for that, but TF and the board for naively giving him a specialised role he had no previous experience of.

                            By giving Les that position now (and having more 'footballing' people in the background like Ramsey) it at least shows that they're learning from their mistakes which can only be a positive. And it should now free up Beard to focus more on his areas of expertise eg OOC project.

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                            • #29
                              Tony has been delighted with his work since he came to the club..... It must have been Les that put a tackle in on Redknapp then and nobbled his knee. Good job Sir.

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                              • #30
                                I don't think you guys have figured out the importance of this announcement. It is becoming normal practice for football teams to have a director of football. He is responsible for the transfers etc. and the manager is responsible for coaching.

                                Les becoming director of football has nothing to do with Harry leaving, but is very possibly the reason he resigned. Les as director of football would have meant Harry had no control over transfers, and I can't see this sitting well with him. I assume that he was told about this a couple of days ago and decided to resign.

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