Buck stops with TF

[Ginger Ninja]

Keep TF has chairman, and there won't be a QPR to go to in 5 years time.

If TF isnt chairman there isnt a guarantee QPR will be here in 5 years either.

[West London is Rss]

I think some of you are absolutely fvcking bonkers slating our chairman for this. Be careful for what you wish for!
And don't start giving it the figures of debt and how much losses we have made off the pitch.

Ginge is right, you moan when there's too many and they underperform and then you moan when we don't need anymore players and don't sign any.

TF is 100% right... These are HR's players he clubbed together at the start of summer. We need to get out of this buying policy... Burnley have used less players then us this season and currently sit above us in the table - This squad to me is good enough to stay up.

HR needs to get more out of these players, full stop. TF is testing HR's resolve... He needs to knuckle down and sort it out. He needs to show how gooda manager he apparently is.
HR's whole career has been buy more, buy more... The bloke's a myth of a coach.

We'll see what HR's made of now..... im fully with TF on this.

And if you lot shout loud enough, then TF will be gone and we may not have a club at the start of next season.... So keep going if you like.

[West London is Rss]

If TF isnt chairman there isnt a guarantee QPR will be here in 5 years either.

Spot in Ginge.. I think some on here, especially Surrey are forgetting this. He seems to think we will find another owner who will run everything so much better, at the click of fingers.

[superhoop67]

Tony what have you learnt since you brought qpr.

Car Giant are tough negotiators

[vblockranger]

I think some of you are absolutely fvcking bonkers slating our chairman for this. Be careful for what you wish for!
I don't start giving it the figures of debt and how much losses we have made off the pitch.

Ginge is right, you moan when there's too many and they underperform and then you moan when we don't need anymore players and don't sign any.

TF is 100% right... These are HR's players he clubbed together at the start of summer. We need to get out of this buying policy... Burnley have used less players then us this season and currently sit above us in the table.

HR needs to get more out of these players, full stop. TF is testing HR's resolve... He needs to knuckle down and sort it out. He needs to show how gooda manager he apparently is.
HR's whole career has been buy more, buy more... The bloke's a myth of a coach.

We'll see what HR's made of now..... im fully with TF on this.

And if you lot shout loud enough, then TF will be gone and we may not have a club at the start of next season.... So keep going if you like.

Pleased we didnt give Harry any money to waste this window as he made his bed with the players he has already brought in. So i am pleased with TF in that respect. No good TF now trying to shift all the blame onto Harry now though as 10 or so days ago he came out with a statement giving Harry is full support. His tweets yesterday all of a sudden seem to infer its all down to Harry but we all know he has held onto him too long. Didnt he offer his mate Harry a contract extension a few months ago? Like been said a lot elsewhere TF comes across as a nice fella but a total failure at running a football club or putting the right people in place to run it for him.
Beard was employed because of the stadium plans and his success at the O2 but he was given the job far too early as we should have had a football experienced CEO to ensure the football side was right first.
They have been building on dodgy foundations and there is a good chance it will all topple because of it.

[West London is Rss]

Pleased we didnt give Harry any money to waste this window as he made his bed with the players he has already brought in. So i am pleased with TF in that respect. No good TF now trying to shift all the blame onto Harry now though as 10 or so days ago he came out with a statement giving Harry is full support. His tweets yesterday all of a sudden seem to infer its all down to Harry but we all know he has held onto him too long. Didnt he offer his mate Harry a contract extension a few months ago? Like been said a lot elsewhere TF comes across as a nice fella but a total failure at running a football club or putting the right people in place to run it for him.
Beard was employed because of the stadium plans and his success at the O2 but he was given the job far too early as we should have had a football experienced CEO to ensure the football side was right first.
They have been building on dodgy foundations and there is a good chance it will all topple because of it.

HR and TF have probably had words since his backing statement so I don't think its any shock TF has got firmer on his stance with HR, saying its your team sort it out.

What don't people understand that we are 100 more times likely to be in the sh1t if Fernandes leaves?!

[vblockranger]

HR and TF have probably had words since his backing statement so I don't think its any shock TF has got firmer on his stance with HR, saying its your team sort it out.

What don't people understand that we are 100 more times likely to be in the sh1t if Fernandes leaves?!

TF has failed mate and makes mistake after mistake. Apologising and saying he has learned lessons is not good enough. Let someone else have a crack at Chairman. Personally i would prefer the whole lot of them to #### off as it is plain the club is not their priority.

[West London is Rss]

TF has failed mate and makes mistake after mistake. Apologising and saying he has learned lessons is not good enough. Let someone else have a crack at Chairman. Personally i would prefer the whole lot of them to #### off as it is plain the club is not their priority.

Did you miss the last line of my last post?

Where we gona find another chairman? It aint a simple transfer.. Where we gona find another owner.. Who is going to want to buy QPR.
I'll say it again.. If TF leaves we are 10 times more likely to be in the sh1t!

I refuse to slate someone who has put his homegrown millions into our own club, whilst losing it with the upmost good intentions.

[Ginger Ninja]

I think some of you are absolutely fvcking bonkers slating our chairman for this. Be careful for what you wish for!
And don't start giving it the figures of debt and how much losses we have made off the pitch.

Ginge is right, you moan when there's too many and they underperform and then you moan when we don't need anymore players and don't sign any.

TF is 100% right... These are HR's players he clubbed together at the start of summer. We need to get out of this buying policy... Burnley have used less players then us this season and currently sit above us in the table - This squad to me is good enough to stay up.

HR needs to get more out of these players, full stop. TF is testing HR's resolve... He needs to knuckle down and sort it out. He needs to show how gooda manager he apparently is.
HR's whole career has been buy more, buy more... The bloke's a myth of a coach.

We'll see what HR's made of now..... im fully with TF on this.

And if you lot shout loud enough, then TF will be gone and we may not have a club at the start of next season.... So keep going if you like.

Top post mate

[vblockranger]

Did you miss the last line of my last post?

I saw it mate i just dont agree with it. If we are relegated and that looks a possibility i just cant see us coming straight back up. FFP in the Championship will hoepfully mean they will start running the club properly and get rid of the high wage earners. The £150 million- £200 million debt they have already incurred by continually ####ing up the past 3 years is the problem though. They infer the debt is no problem and they could write it off but i think this unlikely. Best scenario is that they do this and walk away with a loss although that is unlikely. Only way they will get their money back after all is the development of OOC and Loftus Rd.

Best i think i can hope for,if the whole lot of them dont #### off and we miraclously find new owners, is if TF/Beard stand down and they have a rethink and appoint people a bit more savvy when it comes to football (Devlin/Dein already been mentioned and a great shout) establish us as a well run club within its means and the stricture of FFP. Build the Academy and training facilities as soon as possible and put the new stadium on hold until the foundations are in place and we begin to reap the benefit of a club that is properly run and managed.

However the scenario i think more likely is if we are relegated they continue as they are wasting millions and battling FFP with the same couple of plums at the helm. Rushing with impatience because of OOC that they know they can make a mountain of money with and no mind to the state of club they are currently caretakers of.

[surrey_hoop]

If TF isnt chairman there isnt a guarantee QPR will be here in 5 years either.

Yeah, because of the crippling debt he has put us in. Football clubs of our size £180m in the red will not be escaping FFP / FL regulations in the coming months and years.

[surrey_hoop]

Did you miss the last line of my last post?

Where we gona find another chairman? It aint a simple transfer.. Where we gona find another owner.. Who is going to want to buy QPR.
I'll say it again.. If TF leaves we are 10 times more likely to be in the sh1t!
I refuse to slate someone who has put his homegrown millions into our own club, whilst losing it with the upmost good intentions.

We are such an unattractive business propsition for so many potential owners because of our current financial situation. If TF actually starts to run a club like a business, then we may actually see people show an interest.

[West London is Rss]

Yeah, because of the crippling debt he has put us in. Football clubs of our size £180m in the red will not be escaping FFP / FL regulations in the coming months and years.

Are you saying you want us in administration then? - Because its no secret you want TF to leave...

[surrey_hoop]

Are you saying you want us in administration then? - Because its no secret you want TF to leave...

Look mate, history has shown that when the going gets tough, Tony gets going. He did it with Caterham, and he will do it with us. Not now. Maybe not a year from now. But he will leave. Bill Kenwright has shown at Everton that you don't need to be a multi-billionaire to own and run a football club successfully over a long period of time, from a business point of view at least. Assuming TF is preapred to wipe out the debt (which he should be, seeing as he got us into it) I can assure you we would be an interesting proposition for a lot of prospective owners, who would almost certainly run the club better than TF has.

[West London is Rss]

Look mate, history has shown that when the going gets tough, Tony gets going. He did it with Caterham, and he will do it with us. Not now. Maybe not a year from now. But he will leave. Bill Kenwright has shown at Everton that you don't need to be a multi-billionaire to own and run a football club successfully over a long period of time, from a business point of view at least. Assuming TF is preapred to wipe out the debt (which he should be, seeing as he got us into it) I can assure you we would be an interesting proposition for a lot of prospective owners, who would almost certainly run the club better than TF has.

Surrey, your basing that all on the assumption that he is going to leave.. Don't force him out the door based on that assumption!