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  • #46
    45 points. City will beat us.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
      The reason I have optimism away from home is because I have faith in the players at the club, we are a team that has the capability to perform well and this two week gap will allow the players to work on certain skills required to win away from home. Our next away match is against Stoke, who have a pretty average home record and potentially are missing two of their key attacking outlets in Mame Diouf and Bojan Krkic. They have already lost to Burnley, Leicester and Villa at home. They will probably have to play Crouch and Walters who I feel our team can deal with, especially with Dunne in the side. The only real concern in their side is Victor Moses and the improvement of Isla should help him perform better.
      Any point in this match will give a huge boost for the future away from home.
      Stoke were by far the better side against us in the home game and I can't see it being any different at theirs if I'm honest. They maybe lacking a couple of players but Crouch and Walters will cause our defence no end of problems

      We're a team who really lack ideas away from home and the 2nd half at Burnley where he just chucked on any attacking player and hoped for the best was embarrassing
      We Are The People.....

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      • #48
        I'd love what some of you lot are smoking!!...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Rangersw12 View Post
          Stoke were by far the better side against us in the home game and I can't see it being any different at theirs if I'm honest. They maybe lacking a couple of players but Crouch and Walters will cause our defence no end of problems

          We're a team who really lack ideas away from home and the 2nd half at Burnley where he just chucked on any attacking player and hoped for the best was embarrassing
          You must have watched a very different match that day, we created a hell of a lot more than them, we were better defensively and definitely were the better team by a country mile. I still remember the positivity here after that performance and the fact that we should definitely have had a penalty thanks to Shaw-fouls on-cross. Crouch was up against Rio in the air and we know his limitations are aerial. With dunne, crouch won't have an easy game and with the way walters is on their right hand side, Yun or Hill will be able to deal with him, whomever is chosen. In defence, Shawcross and Wollscheid are good aerially but lack the ground presence to deal with vargas cutting in and fer on the left will cause all sorts of problems for Bardsley. I really think we have a big chance.
          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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          • #50
            Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
            You must have watched a very different match that day, we created a hell of a lot more than them, we were better defensively and definitely were the better team by a country mile. I still remember the positivity here after that performance and the fact that we should definitely have had a penalty thanks to Shaw-fouls on-cross. Crouch was up against Rio in the air and we know his limitations are aerial. With dunne, crouch won't have an easy game and with the way walters is on their right hand side, Yun or Hill will be able to deal with him, whomever is chosen. In defence, Shawcross and Wollscheid are good aerially but lack the ground presence to deal with vargas cutting in and fer on the left will cause all sorts of problems for Bardsley. I really think we have a big chance.
            I am pretty sure mate that you are the kind of guy that thinks we will win every game before kick off. Got a mate like you and a lot more often than not it is quite painful to see his little face fall during the game when reality kicks in and he realizes that yet again our main tactic for the game is to defend for our lives and hoof it upfield with little skill and lots of hope.
            Last edited by vblockranger; 27-01-2015, 04:18 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
              I am pretty sure mate that you are the kind of guy that thinks we will win every game before kick off. Got a mate like you and a lot more often than not it is quite painful to see his little face fall during the game when reality kicks in and he realizes that yet again our main tactic for the game is to defend for our lives and hoof it upfield with little skill and lots of hope.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                I am pretty sure mate that you are the kind of guy that thinks we will win every game before kick off. Got a mate like you and a lot more often than not it is quite painful to see his little face fall during the game when reality kicks in and he realizes that yet again our main tactic for the game is to defend for our lives and hoof it upfield with little skill and lots of hope.
                Surely you should go to every game thinking we can win before it has started? Obviously in reality this won't happen, but isn't that the alluring part of football? Its the hope that kills you, but also that keeps us coming back for more.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by surrey_hoop View Post
                  Surely you should go to every game thinking we can win before it has started? Obviously in reality this won't happen, but isn't that the alluring part of football? Its the hope that kills you, but also that keeps us coming back for more.
                  Na , all about the beer and day out with my mates
                  We Are The People.....

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by surrey_hoop View Post
                    Surely you should go to every game thinking we can win before it has started? Obviously in reality this won't happen, but isn't that the alluring part of football? Its the hope that kills you, but also that keeps us coming back for more.
                    Do i think we will win before every game? No of course not dont be stupid
                    Do i think that maybe just maybe the manager/players have trained hard all week and rediscovered the art of passing 6ft to a fellow team mate or manage to keep possession of the ball for more than 3 passes? yer i live in hope and thats what keeps me going. Lets not kid ourselves, we have been utter #### in the prem since we came up with Warnock and to imagine anything else is just nonsense. We are playing above our station and with all the money spent on the team that is what is really scandalous.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                      You must have watched a very different match that day, we created a hell of a lot more than them, we were better defensively and definitely were the better team by a country mile. I still remember the positivity here after that performance and the fact that we should definitely have had a penalty thanks to Shaw-fouls on-cross. Crouch was up against Rio in the air and we know his limitations are aerial. With dunne, crouch won't have an easy game and with the way walters is on their right hand side, Yun or Hill will be able to deal with him, whomever is chosen. In defence, Shawcross and Wollscheid are good aerially but lack the ground presence to deal with vargas cutting in and fer on the left will cause all sorts of problems for Bardsley. I really think we have a big chance.
                      Maybe you should of taken your your blue and white hooped glasses off and you might have seen a different game

                      You're describing the tactics like its FIFA 15 or FM 15 in real life we're dreadful and Redknapp has shown he is clueless

                      Unfortunately it will more than likely be another defeat on the road but I'm sure the stats will show we will have had 15 shots with 1 on target and like the Everton game people will take that as we played well and then the cycle will start again for the next game
                      We Are The People.....

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                        So you are making the assumption that we won't win a single away game?

                        I personally see us getting quite a few points. wins against Sunderland, Hull, Everton, Villa, Newcastle; draws or wins against Stoke, Southampton, Spurs, Chelsea, Leicester and maybe arsenal and West ham, Losses against City, Liverpool, Palace, WBA.
                        Totals up to about 20-26 points hopefully.
                        lmfao. what planet you on?

                        we will do well to get 12. im thinking 8 or 9
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                          lmfao. what planet you on?

                          we will do well to get 12. im thinking 8 or 9
                          So tell me Hits, where do you see us not getting points?
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Rangersw12 View Post
                            Maybe you should of taken your your blue and white hooped glasses off and you might have seen a different game

                            You're describing the tactics like its FIFA 15 or FM 15 in real life we're dreadful and Redknapp has shown he is clueless

                            Unfortunately it will more than likely be another defeat on the road but I'm sure the stats will show we will have had 15 shots with 1 on target and like the Everton game people will take that as we played well and then the cycle will start again for the next game
                            I'm describing them as someone who studies them, not as someone playing a game. Just because I don't sit there as an armchair fan complaining about limited things that I don't understand, doesn't make my points less valid. It is ignorant to suggest that looking at it the way I do is an inaccurate way of looking at it. But maybe taking off those fire and brimstone glasses will allow you to look at the game in a balanced manner.
                            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                              lmfao. what planet you on?

                              we will do well to get 12. im thinking 8 or 9
                              Exactly what im thinking.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                                I'm describing them as someone who studies them, not as someone playing a game. Just because I don't sit there as an armchair fan complaining about limited things that I don't understand, doesn't make my points less valid. It is ignorant to suggest that looking at it the way I do is an inaccurate way of looking at it. But maybe taking off those fire and brimstone glasses will allow you to look at the game in a balanced manner.
                                K now i am curious Nasser, how do you study them ? Why do you suggest "armchair fans" dont have the same understanding as you? Why is it ignorant to object to your opinion that 20 -26 points from remaining games is laughable? You are entitled to your opinion just as much as i am entitled to laugh at it. If you think 20 - 26 points then fine lets wait and see. You gonna have to take the flak if you come out with such predictions in such a way that it seems you look down on those who havent your footballing knowledge.

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