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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by Hove Ranger View PostCannot believe your main argument is based on the potential of our team on paper, which in being unquantifiable cannot be a basis for whether HR stays or goes!! Surely every manager would argue their team would finish mid table if luck had gone their way? (ie injuries, suspensions, late goals etc.)
Nice chap just blinded by 'stats' that mean #### all in football.
Team has 99% possession but the other team touched it once & scored. 1-0 - stats mean nothing.
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Originally posted by Hove Ranger View PostCannot believe your main argument is based on the potential of our team on paper, which in being unquantifiable cannot be a basis for whether HR stays or goes!! Surely every manager would argue their team would finish mid table if luck had gone their way? (ie injuries, suspensions, late goals etc.)"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View PostI get the impression Nasser is a 'newbie' football fan.
Nice chap just blinded by 'stats' that mean #### all in football.
Team has 99% possession but the other team touched it once & scored. 1-0 - stats mean nothing."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Look I need to be clear here.
I'm not pro Harry or Anti Harry.....I want my team to stay up, and go on and be successful...whatever that is the prem.
If one of you had a crystal ball and told me we'd stay up if we change manager now I would go for it.
All R's know how bad the away form is.......so does the manager and he said there is no excuses for it in the PC.
The point i was making about his press conf is that i thought he spoke well, highlighting that we have players that are on too much and can't
shift em. That the youngsters in his opinion are not good enough for the 1st team, and that he still has a hunger for the job.
I thought he handled it very well
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Originally posted by SammyKojoe View PostBe nice if he put the same 11 or near enough the same 11 out each week."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNewbie football fan, bit harsh Jimmy haha. I have been watching the sport my whole life. I have always used stats as a back up to a main point. They are there to support them so why not use them eh? The stats of that match that you mentioned would probably suggest the team lacks penetration in the final third, this would be supported by Stats
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Originally posted by QPRDave View PostLook I need to be clear here.
I'm not pro Harry or Anti Harry.....I want my team to stay up, and go on and be successful...whatever that is the prem.
If one of you had a crystal ball and told me we'd stay up if we change manager now I would go for it.
All R's know how bad the away form is.......so does the manager and he said there is no excuses for it in the PC.
The point i was making about his press conf is that i thought he spoke well, highlighting that we have players that are on too much and can't
shift em. That the youngsters in his opinion are not good enough for the 1st team, and that he still has a hunger for the job.
I thought he handled it very well
Sorry if I have been involved in the hijacking of this thread, I do really want to get back to the key point from the conference which I hope people will realise he is generally right about."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNewbie football fan, bit harsh Jimmy haha. I have been watching the sport my whole life. I have always used stats as a back up to a main point. They are there to support them so why not use them eh? The stats of that match that you mentioned would probably suggest the team lacks penetration in the final third, this would be supported by Stats
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNewbie football fan, bit harsh Jimmy haha. I have been watching the sport my whole life. I have always used stats as a back up to a main point. They are there to support them so why not use them eh? The stats of that match that you mentioned would probably suggest the team lacks penetration in the final third, this would be supported by Stats
What's the stats on candle faces prem wins for QPR ?
If I was as ineffective in my work as he is I would of been down the road ages ago
Can I ask you something Nasser, how old are you and do you go to games?From the Hills of Kerry
To the streets of Free Derry
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostYea leicester who are below us and have been most of the season, only getting some wins in their last few matches, and Burnley who have done the same and haven't scored more than one goal at home this season before last weekend are playing better football than us. Lets look deeper shall we? Burnley have only 1 away win this season, and only 3 home wins two of which were 1 - 0. Their only away win was a 2 - 1 at stoke. But yea, they are certainly so much better than us arent they.
How about leicester you ask? They did have a good match against Man Utd at home, that 5 - 3 capitulation, their only other win at home? Villa last weekend and that was 1 - 0. But maybe it is much better away from home eh? Not really, the won 1 - 0 at stoke... sound familiar? they also managed to beat hull away from home though, 1 - 0 again... But hey, they are so much better than us aren't they.
For your second point, fans make the choice of travelling to support their teams, you are almost never favourite away from home unless you are top four. Yes, I agree, it is poor to have lost every away match but what matters in the end isn't where we get the points, but having the points themselves.
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Originally posted by West London is Rss View PostNo one wants to believe them cos its bullsh1t Nasser and no one else has those views!!.. A 'few' injuries?!
I give up. Someone help me here.
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Have a look at dyche as an example. Done well at Watford under a circus boardroom . Then goes burnley loses his best player austin to us. Still gets them promoted when bookies had them as 1 of the favs to go down. This season barely spent a penny and has them above us in the table. That's what a decent manager can do for a club.
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Originally posted by QPR Rickson View PostHave a look at dyche as an example. Done well at Watford under a circus boardroom . Then goes burnley loses his best player austin to us. Still gets them promoted when bookies had them as 1 of the favs to go down. This season barely spent a penny and has them above us in the table. That's what a decent manager can do for a club.
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