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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
    Matty hasnt been injury prone for 7 years though, just since we signed him (go figure). Think thats the point West is trying to make. I think. Maybe.
    Yeah that is the point I was making.

    Sandro only injury prone for 2-3 years? I thought you were a stat man Nasser?

    88 appearances in 4 years......

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    • #32
      Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
      I think its a disgrace how so many QPR fans are throwing Phillips out the window... The guys 22 years old and has had two bad injuries since signing for us. His hardly been given a chance and if he wants to stay to fight then good on him!!.. We were crying out for players with that sort of attitude not so long ago and now people are wanting that sort of player out the door.. Some of you obviously have very short memories.
      Its the spoilt mentality of our fans that if a player has a bad few games they think he is rubbish and we should just buy someone else

      The same thing is happening with Mutch

      If we had a decent manager who actually set up the team with tactics , game plan , consistent formation and a style of play then the players would improve.

      You watch Phillips and Mutch thrive when they leave us
      We Are The People.....

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
        Glad it's not just me that thinks this. Rather have Phillips tbh.
        Ditto.

        Never seen anything that makes me look twice.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rangersw12 View Post
          Its the spoilt mentality of our fans that if a player has a bad few games they think he is rubbish and we should just buy someone else

          The same thing is happening with Mutch

          If we had a decent manager who actually set up the team with tactics , game plan , consistent formation and a style of play then the players would improve.

          You watch Phillips and Mutch thrive when they leave us
          Couldn't agree more

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
            Matty hasnt been injury prone for 7 years though, just since we signed him (go figure). Think thats the point West is trying to make. I think. Maybe.
            You do realise sandro is 25, if he was injury prone for 7 years he wouldn't have been signed in the first place. His injury record dates back to 2012 and that is the actual start of it.
            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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            • #36
              Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
              Yeah that is the point I was making.

              Sandro only injury prone for 2-3 years? I thought you were a stat man Nasser?

              88 appearances in 4 years......
              I am a stat man, I have the valid proof here. From transfrmarket.com:
              Sandro injury: Internacional - 30 days june 2009 muscular problems
              Tottenham Hotspur - Mensical laceration 75 days july 2011
              Tottenham Hotspur - Knee op, January 2013 188 days.
              QPR - Knee Injury, nov 22 2014
              Hardly a real injury record if im being honest.
              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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              • #37
                Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                You do realise sandro is 25, if he was injury prone for 7 years he wouldn't have been signed in the first place. His injury record dates back to 2012 and that is the actual start of it.
                Look at his appearances in 4 years and you have your answer to injury prone or not stat man.
                If you don't think Sandro is injury prone then you need your head tested.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                  I am a stat man, I have the valid proof here. From transfrmarket.com:
                  Sandro injury: Internacional - 30 days june 2009 muscular problems
                  Tottenham Hotspur - Mensical laceration 75 days july 2011
                  Tottenham Hotspur - Knee op, January 2013 188 days.
                  QPR - Knee Injury, nov 22 2014
                  Hardly a real injury record if im being honest.
                  That was against us in the 0-0 draw and has never been the same player since
                  We Are The People.....

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rangersw12 View Post
                    That was against us in the 0-0 draw and has never been the same player since
                    He has absolutely been the same player, you are avoiding the point by suggesting that. It is clear that everyone here has over exaggerated his injury record. He has been excellent for us whenever he has played and will be a key player in the run in.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                      He has absolutely been the same player, you are avoiding the point by suggesting that. It is clear that everyone here has over exaggerated his injury record. He has been excellent for us whenever he has played and will be a key player in the run in.
                      HEADS GONE.... SURELY?!!! Are you for real Nasser?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
                        HEADS GONE.... SURELY?!!! Are you for real Nasser?
                        Make an actual point, don't just question mine without backing it up. He was excellent for spurs last season whenever he was called upon and to be honest, if he was still the best defensive midfielder in the premier league, he would be at a top club, not us. He would have happily been starting at spurs on a weekly basis now and ma have been at a bigger club were the harry factor not included.
                        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                          He has absolutely been the same player, you are avoiding the point by suggesting that. It is clear that everyone here has over exaggerated his injury record. He has been excellent for us whenever he has played and will be a key player in the run in.
                          No he hasn't which is why Spurs sold him to us he is a crock and his knee has gone

                          Another signing by reputation rather than proper scouting
                          We Are The People.....

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                          • #43
                            No fella, im not making a point. Ive made countless along with the whole board and they've just gone straight over your head.. I quite honestly don't have the strength to either.
                            He was excellent last season for Spurs?! He didn't fvcking play last season!! He was injured!!

                            I cant debate with you, seriously.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
                              No fella, im not making a point. Ive made countless along with the whole board and they've just gone straight over your head.. I quite honestly don't have the strength to either.
                              He was excellent last season for Spurs?! He didn't fvcking play last season!! He was injured!!

                              I cant debate with you, seriously.
                              Except for the 23 matches he did play in a rotation for spurs after the Sherwood incidents. Let that go straight over your head though.
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                                Except for the 23 matches he did play in a rotation for spurs after the Sherwood incidents. Let that go straight over your head though.
                                Has your argument really come down to Sandro being rotated for 23 games of the season?.. What happened to him for the other 40 odd games that season? Couldn't hold down a place or injured?

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