Who would own a football club...?

[nasser95]

Investment is fine. Investment beyond your means is a recipe for disaster. I also think it is easy to see a good deal in football when you see one - Austin for £4m and £30k a week was excellent business and never really a gamble; SWP for an undisclosed fee and on wages totaling £12m by the time his contract expires was absolutely ludicrous.

In terms of eventually being successful...I think we (and certainly TF) would've already expected success by now, at least relatively speaking i.e. an established mid table PL team. Personally, I don't share your faith that we will achieve success as long as TF stays the course. Regardless of the view of the fans at the time concerning players and managers, history has shown that he has made more bad decisions than good ones whilst in charge, and appears as naive now as he did the day he walked through the doors of Loftus Road.

I'm sorry, but your first statement is only applicable due to hindsight. Everyone here questioned the austin signing because of his failed medical. SWP was an excellent player in his time and we thought we could bring that out of him. Undisclosed doesn't mean a ludicrous amount either, it means not released.
History has also not shown that in any way. He has made more good signings than bad, he has fixed a mistake made by the man previously in charge which ultimately got us relegated by selling all the mercenaries and keeping the workers. He got us promoted at the first time of asking.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Investment is fine. Investment beyond your means is a recipe for disaster. I also think it is easy to see a good deal in football when you see one - Austin for £4m and £30k a week was excellent business and never really a gamble; SWP for an undisclosed fee and on wages totaling £12m by the time his contract expires was absolutely ludicrous.

In terms of eventually being successful...I think we (and certainly TF) would've already expected success by now, at least relatively speaking i.e. an established mid table PL team. Personally, I don't share your faith that we will achieve success as long as TF stays the course. Regardless of the view of the fans at the time concerning players and managers, history has shown that he has made more bad decisions than good ones whilst in charge, and appears as naive now as he did the day he walked through the doors of Loftus Road.

everyone has got a name they fancy for our new manager once we have ousted this one, have you got anyone in mind to take over our super club if we all chase tf out for being such a useless bell end?

[surrey_hoop]

I'm sorry, but your first statement is only applicable due to hindsight. Everyone here questioned the austin signing because of his failed medical. SWP was an excellent player in his time and we thought we could bring that out of him. Undisclosed doesn't mean a ludicrous amount either, it means not released.
History has also not shown that in any way. He has made more good signings than bad, he has fixed a mistake made by the man previously in charge which ultimately got us relegated by selling all the mercenaries and keeping the workers. He got us promoted at the first time of asking.

How else can you judge a signing, if not from the crystal view of hindsight? I don't think "everyone here questioned the Austin signing." We knew we were getting a proven goalscorer at a great age and excellent price, and if I recall many where actually more than a little surprised that Hull passed up on him in the first place. I also understand what undisclosed means - common sense though would suggest that it was undisclosed for a reason.

You honestly think that we have made more good signings than bad since TF has been in charge? I could name you two or three bad signings for every one good signing. Seeing as we were nearly relegated the first year of his ownership, finished bottom of the league in his second, and look likely to go down again in his fourth, I would suggest history has shown that to be the case.

[surrey_hoop]

everyone has got a name they fancy for our new manager once we have ousted this one, have you got anyone in mind to take over our super club if we all chase tf out for being such a useless bell end?

What a patronising comment. No Kevin, I don't have a name in mind and I don't need one either. It isn't a question of ousting Fernandes - its about acknowledging his flaws. If you deem TF to be above criticism, what is the point in even discussing it?

[Kevin Mcleod]

What a patronising comment. No Kevin, I don't have a name in mind and I don't need one either. If you deem TF to be above criticism, what is the point in even discussing it?

Was a genuine question mate, swear down. You obviously dont like what hes doing by your posts in here and would be happy for him to be replaced by a better benefactor, so i thought you might have someone else in mind who could do better. Wasnt patronising in any way. I will ask kirill the same question, im being that sincere.

[surrey_hoop]

Was a genuine question mate, swear down. You obviously dont like what hes doing by your posts in here and would be happy for him to be replaced by a better benefactor, so i thought you might have someone else in mind who could do better. Wasnt patronising in any way. I will ask kirill the same question, im being that sincere.

Fair enough, probably just the way it was worded. Sorry for that. In all honesty, I am not clued up on my football loving multi-millionaires. You are right though, I have not been a fan of the way that he has run the club up to this point......but that doesn't mean I want him gone either. He has made numerous big mistakes, and deserves to be criticised for them as a result - I would like to think that he would not be so hubristic as to admit as much himself. Having said that, he is still at the point of his ownership where the die is yet to be cast, he can turn us around yet. To do so though he will need something of a paradigm shift regarding a number of aspects of owning the football club.

[Kevin Mcleod]

If people keep giving him stick on twitter i reckon he could walk and we could be brought for a pound with a ten million debt. Maybe facto, weare and isleworth would all chip in 33p each and take us forwards.

[surrey_hoop]

If people keep giving him stick on twitter i reckon he could walk and we could be brought for a pound with a ten million debt. Maybe facto, weare and isleworth would all chip in 33p each and take us forwards.

He has threatened to step down long before he was ever criticised on Twitter. I may be doing him a disservice, but he does strike me as something of an egotistical type, who needs constant approval from others in order to justify his decisions. Rather than quitting QPR, he should quit social media.

[QPRDave]

Remember when we went 3-5-2, with a squad of players who had never played in that formation before? We took a couple of batterings as a result. As I say, inept.

Spurs and man u iirc...Not sure that's tactically inept....he tried it and it failed miserably. I understand why he tried it

[stationcafe]

^^We also tried 352 last season and it didn't work then. Lord knows why we decided it would be a good idea..

TF & co. tried, unfortunately we were a mess when they bought us and they've had very bad advice. I guess when they appointed HR they thought they were going for someone who knew English football and was guaranteed to steady the club. Arry's media reputation/friends have truly done him wonders.

On a side note I think that, aside from the ego boost that must come from owning a club, it's a useful way for these mil/billionaires to network. I imagine the prospect of entering into business with the Mittals would've appealed to TF. There are probably serious deals and discussions going on behind the scenes.

[surrey_hoop]

Spurs and man u iirc...Not sure that's tactically inept....he tried it and it failed miserably. I understand why he tried it

Asking your players to play in a formation that a) they are unfamiliar with and b) the opposition can exploit as a result is the very definition of inept tactics.

Do you? Could you enlighten me then please, because I haven't got a clue why he tried it.

[QPRDave]

Asking your players to play in a formation that a) they are unfamiliar with and b) the opposition can exploit as a result is the very definition of inept tactics.

Do you? Could you enlighten me then please, because I haven't got a clue why he tried it.

What so they didn't try it in training? or even pre-season?....come on. Obviously not saying they weren't disastrous games, but the players hardly broke sweat
I think the reason he tried is because he wanted 5 in mf to try and control games, but couldn't play Charlie up front on his own.

[Abseits]

Big issue I have with the 3-5-2 formation was fact that we just caved in and gave up on it after about 30 mins of first game. Ok, we were all over the place and getting the run around from opposition but have some back-bone, strength of conviction and stick to the bleeding plan at least for a few games surely? That whole debacle smacked of bolshy players deliberately sabotaging things to keep things how they wanted. Maybe it was inept coaching and it wasn't the players....s 'pose we'll never know but either way it just made us look weak and clueless.

[surrey_hoop]

What so they didn't try it in training? or even pre-season?....come on. Obviously not saying they weren't disastrous games, but the players hardly broke sweat
I think the reason he tried is because he wanted 5 in mf to try and control games, but couldn't play Charlie up front on his own.

Who know's with Harry? We've had more formations than the Red Arrows since he's been in charge.

[QPRDave]

Who know's with Harry? We've had more formations than the Red Arrows since he's been in charge.

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