Warnock gone, pardew on his way now Irvine sacked

[Kevin Mcleod]

Fer thunderbolt goes in and we all walk away happy again

True mate. Would of been up there in our greatest goals list. Want speroni dead for being such a good keeper and saving that. Ha.

[twranger]

European places? My god.

Apart from your appalling grammar, I'll just point out we haven't moved on one bit.

The majority of our first team are either coming to the end of their careers or on so much unwarranted money they can't be shifted.

Another overhaul in January that could of been done in July / August. Same as every season. Is this the way to run a club? Where is our future?

A stadium is years away pal. A training ground is also pie in the sky it seems. Please list for us where we have advanced under the current management to the tune of a £170,000,000 debt.

Can't wait for your response.

Whoops! Since you're picking people up on their grammar...........it's could have, not could of. Otherwise all ok! 9/10

[Kirill]

Whoops! Since you're picking people up on their grammar...........it's could have, not could of. Otherwise all ok! 9/10

Shouldn't "OK" be capitalised? And I am not sure what the dozen or so consecutive dots stand for after the word "grammar" but then again I never went to grammar school

[CroydonCaptainJack]

True mate. Would of been up there in our greatest goals list. Want speroni dead for being such a good keeper and saving that. Ha.

Goal of the season if that had gone in.

[twranger]

Shouldn't "OK" be capitalised? And I am not sure what the dozen or so consecutive dots stand for after the word "grammar" but then again I never went to grammar school

Not necessarily. Both are OK/ok. The dots are a style of typing..............nothing to do with grammar. ok?

[Kirill]

Not necessarily. Both are OK/ok. The dots are a style of typing..............nothing to do with grammar. ok?

But they have everything to do with syntax. Surely if your grammar is strong, your syntax should be, too. How do you call that style of typing then...........erratic?

P.S. I bet some bertie will pipe up now and tell me to stop picking on poor TW

[nasser95]

At the expense of £170m debt? Erm No!

I couldn't give a toss to be honest who 'knows us in Europe' so! I'm more concerned with our philosophy & the logic we seem to adopt.

You haven't commented on youth. Any reason?

Training ground?

Oh and add Hill to your list. That's six first teamers who'll need replacing, not to mention the likes of Taarabt, SWP & how many orhers that need to & will go. Where's our plan B for this??

Maybe you and others are happy with how it's all going. Some others myself included have woke up to certain things & I don't like it.

I'm not an eternal pessimist like Kirill by any stretch, but I'm not blind to glaring problems at our club. Have a listen to old QPR players & managers on podcasts, interviews etc echoing exactly what I'm saying if you need further assurance.

Bit ridiculous that you are adding hill to that list because under any other circumstance he wouldn't play, but anything to win an argument i suppose. Our debt is not something to worry about because guess what? not even our owners are worried about it. Get real and understand that if the people who's money is going to repay debt don't seem worried, it is probably because there is no need to be worried.
Youth we always manage to produce one or two players per youth academy group so I don't have many worries. Cole-Kpweka looks good and Coll Donaldson looks very tidy in defence. We aren't Man Utd or Man City, we can't consistently churn out youth players. SWP's contract ends this season and Taarabt will most likely be off to Either Napoli or Ac Milan in January. Training ground is a long process, especially with the fact that we are in london and there isn't much development space. The only real option is Warren Farm and some people are causing problems.
Also, can you count because I named 3 positions in the first team that needed replacing and frankly, with a bit of form, Jordon Mutch will take over that cm role, leaving Striker and Cb as needing long term replacements. If you really think about it, even Onuoha can take over eventually. So no, I'm not worried and I'm definitely not blinded in either side of this argument. I'm just smart enough to realise that the 'glaring problems' at our club are very limited.

[nasser95]

You don't need 40 points ricky think 40 has only ever been required once in premier league history. Think historically if you get 36 points more often then not your safe

Perhaps nassar can give breakdown of points needed each prem season to be safe

Got it right here:
In the last 12 seasons of premier league football, these were the points total needed to survive: 34, 37, 37, 40, 31, 35, 36, 38, 35, 34, 34, 43.
From 13/14 to 02/03. on average, 36.1 points are needed to survive. we are well on course to that value. The only thing bringing that up to 36.1 is the 02/03 season. Without that value, 35.55 points are needed.

[Kevin Mcleod]

I find it odd how many people worry about bulti billionaires money problems (or no problems whatsoever in our boards case i mean).
Didnt mittal spend near on the total sum of our entire debt on one of his families wedding days? They aint worried about it, and i sure as hell am not either.

[twranger]

But they have everything to do with syntax. Surely if your grammar is strong, your syntax should be, too. How do you call that style of typing then...........erratic?

P.S. I bet some bertie will pipe up now and tell me to stop picking on poor TW

You do make me laugh at times mate, you really do! Pick on me as much as you like chum, I can handle it! God, it must be bleak in Estonia, hence your constant negativity on here! Happy New Year to you.....if that's possible!

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Bit ridiculous that you are adding hill to that list because under any other circumstance he wouldn't play, but anything to win an argument i suppose. Our debt is not something to worry about because guess what? not even our owners are worried about it. Get real and understand that if the people who's money is going to repay debt don't seem worried, it is probably because there is no need to be worried.
Youth we always manage to produce one or two players per youth academy group so I don't have many worries. Cole-Kpweka looks good and Coll Donaldson looks very tidy in defence. We aren't Man Utd or Man City, we can't consistently churn out youth players. SWP's contract ends this season and Taarabt will most likely be off to Either Napoli or Ac Milan in January. Training ground is a long process, especially with the fact that we are in london and there isn't much development space. The only real option is Warren Farm and some people are causing problems.
Also, can you count because I named 3 positions in the first team that needed replacing and frankly, with a bit of form, Jordon Mutch will take over that cm role, leaving Striker and Cb as needing long term replacements. If you really think about it, even Onuoha can take over eventually. So no, I'm not worried and I'm definitely not blinded in either side of this argument. I'm just smart enough to realise that the 'glaring problems' at our club are very limited.

Haven't bothered reading your drivel as that's all you seem to post. First line was enough to confirm that.
Hill has played the last 2-3 games in the first team for QPR.

Why would he not be on a list of players at the end of their careers???

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

I find it odd how many people worry about bulti billionaires money problems (or no problems whatsoever in our boards case i mean).
Didnt mittal spend near on the total sum of our entire debt on one of his families wedding days? They aint worried about it, and i sure as hell am not either.

Sorry. What's his wedding day budget got to do with QPR?

Slightly confused.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Sorry. What's his wedding day budget got to do with QPR?

Slightly confused.

Means he's got plenty of plunder so people dont need to worry themselves about the 170 million debt, its nothing in the grand scale of things. Wasn't his wedding either, just one of his relatives.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Means he's got plenty of plunder so people dont need to worry themselves about the 170 million debt, its nothing in the grand scale of things. Wasn't his wedding either, just one of his relatives.

Ah ok. Nothing to worry about then.

It's only £170,000,000

Thanks for the reassurance.

[nasser95]

Haven't bothered reading your drivel as that's all you seem to post. First line was enough to confirm that.
Hill has played the last 2-3 games in the first team for QPR.

Why would he not be on a list of players at the end of their careers???

Played the last 2-3 games is what you think, actually came on as a sub in one, missed one, started the third. The actual first team player is Yun Suk Young. It doesn't really matter who is cover, the first team is what you mentioned.