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  • No pace anywhere in the team. No creativity in central midfield

    Lucky today to get a point TBH. Thought the Palace midfield pairing of Jedinak and Ledley were outstanding. Creative and hard working. They played Barton and Kelvin off the pitch. We created nothing in open play. And, having no pace anywhere in the team, including Holliet who got the ball too deep with three players on him, we can't break to save our lives. Thought Palace, lacking anything up front, looked a more balanced, better side. That's worrying.

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    I found Palace to be a bit toothless....yeah they got whippets in the team but i thought overall the back 4 handled them well.
    Sir Clint never let us down again ...Isla and Caulker seem to be getting better.
    Agree with you on our attacking though .....Chaz needs service, crosses in particular

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    • #3
      We got Phillips Hoilett and SWP, and not a decent cross between them. We need some wingers.
      Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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      • #4
        Back four very solid. Clint as good as ever. Barton poor though. As was Vargas.

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        • #5
          Changes to the squad are needed i agree

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          • #6
            It's going to be a long hard slog for QPR this season. I don't expect much in the transfer window to improve the squad.

            Perhaps QPR will sell Taarabt Traore Hoilett and Phillips in order to raise a few quid to buy some players with pace and ability in attack. Probably wont get much for those four - perhaps £7 million if lucky - but that might buy a player or two who are in the final year of their contracts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
              Lucky today to get a point TBH. Thought the Palace midfield pairing of Jedinak and Ledley were outstanding. Creative and hard working. They played Barton and Kelvin off the pitch. We created nothing in open play. And, having no pace anywhere in the team, including Holliet who got the ball too deep with three players on him, we can't break to save our lives. Thought Palace, lacking anything up front, looked a more balanced, better side. That's worrying.
              Agree entirely 77 and wins against WBA and Leicester have to some extent papered over the cracks. But think you have made the argument here I have tried to make to you a few times in the past - a team purely of workhorses isn't enough in the Prem. Your hero Clint was a big improvement on Traore so accept you need some steel. But a midfield of Barton and Henry - as I have been saying for some time - does not have nearly enough creativity to flourish in the Prem. And Fer doesn't work out wide - either play him in the centre or off the main striker or don't play him.
              But we have two midfield players who are comfortable on the ball - Nico and Adel. At least one of those is reviled by the majority of fans. Nico is frustratingly slow. But just imagine if either of those two had the dead balls that Barton wasted today? Reckon they would have made one of those count. I think Barton deserves his place - but as some of us have been saying for months now, a team relying on him as the play-maker is in trouble. Boulasie may lack end product but we had nobody on the pitch who cd done some of the stuff he cd and as such we never really looked like breaking them open. Even the header off the line was straight at the defender so no real prospect of a goal.
              People moan about Hoilett but it was pretty clear today that Phillips is no better.

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              • #8
                Great post, Stainrod. My pal makes the same point. Barton and Kelvin aren't the creative pairing you need in the premiership. You ought play one, but not both. A CM who can carry the ball and pass (could that ever be Fer? JordOFF Mutch?) would make a great difference. Especially if Charlie was paired with a striker with pace who could run on to balls played wide or, God forbid, over the top or through the defence. Think I'm as done with Holliet as I am with Traore. Four wingers in the 25 and not one of them can beat their man or ever deliver a cross..... Clint was superb at LB. Particularly first half when he forced Puncheon to abandon the wing.

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                • #9
                  Good posts here.
                  Clint has been defensively very solid, but he gives absolutely nothing upwards. Missed Yun today.

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                  • #10
                    Personally thought Phillips done decent enough when on gets on the ball and runs at then opposition the only person who tried doing that tidsy

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                    • #11
                      Isla was solid enough at the back, but offered nothing offensively either. When he beat his man first half the final ball was lacking. But central midfield isn't able to get the ball out wide quickly or tellingly. Palace won every lose ball in midfield. Charlie was poor today, too. But as we know he could have scored had we created the chance for him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
                        Great post, Stainrod. My pal makes the same point. Barton and Kelvin aren't the creative pairing you need in the premiership. You ought play one, but not both. A CM who can carry the ball and pass (could that ever be Fer? JordOFF Mutch?) would make a great difference. Especially if Charlie was paired with a striker with pace who could run on to balls played wide or, God forbid, over the top or through the defence. Think I'm as done with Holliet as I am with Traore. Four wingers in the 25 and not one of them can beat their man or ever deliver a cross..... Clint was superb at LB. Particularly first half when he forced Puncheon to abandon the wing.
                        Thanks mate. Agree entirely about the telling pass. Fer looks good in patches and has at least impressed more than Mutch who has looked dreadful (tho in fairness hasn't had a decent run in the team). Like you am not sure Sandro is the world beater some rate him as but on today's evidence we need him. Someone who doesn't treat a football like a hot potato. Am not Hoilett's biggest fan - all I would say in his defence is, a bit like Adel, he is always looking for the ball - other players don't really do anything so make fewer mistakes and thus don't get criticised. Bobby was off the pace, Chaz didn't do much (no service), Vargas kept losing the ball - but who was there on the bench? Was Nico injured? And whatever issue Harry has with Adel, he needs to be the bigger man. Who, honestly, is more likely to change a game coming off the bench - Adel or SWP?

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                        • #13
                          The team did not have the same determination as in our previous home games. The US tv stations made the excuse that the team was preoccupied with the disappearance of the Air Asia plane (which was all they talked about on tv).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jmelanie View Post
                            The team did not have the same determination as in our previous home games. The US tv stations made the excuse that the team was preoccupied with the disappearance of the Air Asia plane (which was all they talked about on tv).
                            would like to say that was true, but it think we just had a bad day!

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                            • #15
                              Finally Harry says that we lack pace

                              QPR boss Harry Redknapp admitted he needs to strengthen his squad in the upcoming transfer window after his sides 0-0 draw with Crystal Palace at Loftus Road.

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