QPR plans have run aground...

[rhysthomsonqpr]

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/peter-bill-on-property-qprs-plans-have-run-aground-9812957.html

i knew this was to good to be true!

[Kirill]

At this point I just want us to survive in the PL this season or it will be all over anyway.

[jmelanie]

This was discussed in another thread yesterday. I think the conclusion was that cargiant only owns a little more than 10% of the land, so there are plenty of other places within Old Oak that the stadium can be built.

[Jeems]

The last sentence in the article sorta contradicts the whole story.

"After all, the Cargiant owner only owns a tiddly 47 acres out of the whole 380".

[rhysthomsonqpr]

oh rights thats good, why was the owner of car giant making a big deal about not selling it to QPR because we offered to little. We must wantbthat little bit of land as well? im not worried about surviving if we play yhe same as last week

[QPR Richard]

Think the club should build a yoof klub right by where car giant want to build. Such a klub would 'reach out' to the poor and disenfranchised of the area, ex-offenders, and rehabilitating drug users.

Such a place would surely have backing from the council as it's a community facility....

[West London is Rss]

Ahhh well... We'll have to stay at Loftus road.. what a shame!!!

[stanistheman]

This was discussed in another thread yesterday. I think the conclusion was that cargiant only owns a little more than 10% of the land, so there are plenty of other places within Old Oak that the stadium can be built.

Yes, I asked a how much of that land do QPR own, which could include QPR's partners & backers.

Cargiant own just a small part of the project's land. If QPR want to build this stadium they can look for other plots of land on the site.

[stanistheman]

Ahhh well... We'll have to stay at Loftus road.. what a shame!!!

It will be more than a shame if they did. The club cannot possibly survive as a Premiership club at 18,000 capacity Loftus Road.

Other clubs with far bigger stadiums will take over from QPR who in about 10 years time could have a stadium that is in the bottom 20 of the whole league for capacity.

[Kirill]

The club cannot possibly survive as a Premiership club at 18,000 capacity Loftus Road.

We need to survive Harry first, get a younger manager in and actually stay in the PL. Now, while the club leadership is incapable of promptly resolving managerial failure, we won't need a new stadium where we are going.

[WeAreQPR12]

We need to survive Harry first, get a younger manager in and actually stay in the PL. Now, while the club leadership is incapable of promptly resolving managerial failure, we won't need a new stadium where we are going.

I tend to agree with this post.

Lets not start building a wall until we have the bricks.

[superhoop67]

more worried about staying up ,than who owns what up the road ,one thing at a time

[Abseits]

New stadium has to be separate from top flight survival. Basically, us (and at least 12 other teams currently in top flight) could quite easily get relegated this season/next season or thereafter. In a nutshell, I can't see that our premier league status will come anywhere close to being solid and secure and "nailed on" in the coming few years. So, waiting til we're "safe" is another way of saying "we're never gonna do it".
We need to forge ahead NOW with plans and get a shovel in the ground before CFC expand, before FFC get back up and before Bees and Watford improve/consolidate.

[hal9thou]

Tracy Island and world domination plans are totally and utterly irrelevant to our small club. We do not have massive foreign markets and media rights are far far more important that bumson seats. For all of these reasons, the football side has to be sorted out first. That can only happen post Harry with a younger manager.

[stanistheman]

New stadium has to be separate from top flight survival. Basically, us (and at least 12 other teams currently in top flight) could quite easily get relegated this season/next season or thereafter. In a nutshell, I can't see that our premier league status will come anywhere close to being solid and secure and "nailed on" in the coming few years. So, waiting til we're "safe" is another way of saying "we're never gonna do it".
We need to forge ahead NOW with plans and get a shovel in the ground before CFC expand, before FFC get back up and before Bees and Watford improve/consolidate.

Spot on. QPR cannot afford to stand still and wait a few more years.
If the previous owners had included a new stadium in their 4 year plan QPR would have moved into it by now.

How many Football League clubs have smaller capacity stadiums than QPR?

Do QPR really want to be in the leyton orient, dagenham, Wycombe Colchester Southend bracket or West ham Palace Swansea one?