Is it really that hard to just not swear? If you can't control yourself, sit somewhere else. We should have a place where people who don't want to subject their kids to bad language can go to watch the match - and this is it.
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Originally posted by dsqpr View PostIs it really that hard to just not swear? If you can't control yourself, sit somewhere else. We should have a place where people who don't want to subject their kids to bad language can go to watch the match - and this is it.Last edited by QPRDave; 14-10-2014, 02:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Bluehoop View PostLet's face it, the words to the songs that get sung cannot be masked by sitting in the family stand. That is why, like Hits and others on here, those of us that take the kids find ways to deal with it.
Mine is similar, my lad's been coming since he was 3, home and way games and I didn't want to move away from my pals into the family stand so once he was old enough to start listening to what was being said it was the "what you hear at football stays at football" line, And the minute you start to repeat it or use it as language yourself you simply wont go to football any more.
He's been going ten years now and whilst I know he shares "language" with his mates at school, typical of teenagers, he doesn't dare to share it at home, around his mum or his little sistersOoh northern lads love gravy
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Originally posted by Bluehoop View PostLet's face it, the words to the songs that get sung cannot be masked by sitting in the family stand. That is why, like Hits and others on here, those of us that take the kids find ways to deal with it.
Mine is similar, my lad's been coming since he was 3, home and way games and I didn't want to move away from my pals into the family stand so once he was old enough to start listening to what was being said it was the "what you hear at football stays at football" line, And the minute you start to repeat it or use it as language yourself you simply wont go to football any more.
He's been going ten years now and whilst I know he shares "language" with his mates at school, typical of teenagers, he doesn't dare to share it at home, around his mum or his little sisters
It's not always the words that kids will pick up on. I know that's not the question here but it is still important IMO.
If you're going to be singing along and reminding Chelsea where the blue flag goes, that's one thing, as is the occasional FFS etc, but the ranting, frothing and properly letting the expletives fly that we've all seen and quite often partaken of, really shouldn't have a place in the family stand.
You're right though, most kids will cope fine, probably hear worse at school, and let's face it we all had an internal trigger that switched depending on whether we were at home or with our mates. The times when that auto-pilot on your swearing starts to drift is quite something though. A few scary moments when you realise that you've just said something without thinking in front of your old mum......
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Well I think all parents know that their kids hear swear words at school. I don't think that's the issue though. The issue is that some parents don't want their children exposed where there is so much vulgar language. Instead, they want to be able to sit with their family and enjoy the game, and I therefore think that those in the family stand should respect this and make such people feel welcome. If you want to sing sexually explicit songs, sit elsewhere.
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Bit of a difference between distant and often indistinct chanting and the bloke next to you yelling fracking cant at the top of his voice!
Edit: Apparently fa ck is a swear word now!'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.
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Like it or not swearing is part of all walks of life, if you dont want your kids to hear it dont bring them to the footy until they are old enough to understand context and what is acceptable language and behaviour for the situation your in, simple
My lads are older now, but like Hitman, we have a rule that what goes on at football stays at football, whether its the swearing, taunting away fans, excessive drinking (only sometimes!!), behaviour etc.
Swearing at football seems to be acceptable in society but not in a restaurant, I know that, my kids know that, so cant see what the problem is22nd February away v Charlton is the 40th Anniversary of my support of QPR and my first game. Away v Chelsea 3-3 23rd Feb 1974. 40 years of pure magic!!
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I was stood in the Lower School End for the Wigan game. The whole game there was a kid on the chair next to me and he was quiet. I tried to not swear as much as possible as I did not think it would be fair (not every child is brought up in a swearing environment) to start shouting proper explicit stuff. As stated above, the odd FFS came out. Later on in the game, this kid shouts "Get up you pssy". To which his Dad said to him "never swear like that again. Those around you may swear as they are adults. You are never to do that again" and from that, I did not feel so bad to swear but still didnt do it as much as normal.
In the family stand, of course the children will hear swear words. But, there is a difference between hearing them and the person next to the kid shouting it down his ear hole. Families sit in the family stand for a reason (different argument about it being in the wrong place)
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