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  • #31
    what i find bizarre is how harry had become so negative. His teams used to attack loads and since hes been here its all about defending and safety first

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    • #32
      Originally posted by WE ARE QPR! View Post
      TF is the problem as there is now a pattern developing............

      Warnock now doing amazing things at Crystal Palace.
      Hughes now doing amazing things at Stoke.
      Arry was doing amazing things at Spurs now reduced to s hite at QPR.

      All worked for TF and ALL S HITE under TF!
      So who do you suggest takes over then? Which chairman will be the one who will get the team playing attacking football and winning games? What tactics do you think he'll use on the training ground and match days? What coaching sessions do you think he'll put on? Which youngsters do you think he'll bring through?

      Or do you think all that lays within the jurisdiction of a football manager?
      Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Snaxo View Post
        He's saying that Wally Downes 'nailed it' - so I guess he's saying this.



        When you look at it, you can see his point (unfortunately).
        He does, yea, but you can also see he is very bitter.
        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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        • #34
          Perfect write up 100% true

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          Redknapp, Rio and Fernandes - a trio that is adding to QPR's demise


          Queens Park Rangers manager Harry Redknapp won promotion to the Premier League last season but his side are struggling back in the top flight.
          Harry Redknapp was the best manager to get Queens Park Rangers promoted last season. Few managers could have juggled so many big earners and big egos in the thankless and unglamorous world of the Championship. His justified self-confidence meant he could let the players police themselves and get over the line, eventually.

          - Report: West Ham 2-0 QPR

          But awarding him another year without really looking at the bigger picture was lazy and indulgent. Redknapp relies on ageing players he knows, but Rangers were crying out for youngsters worthy of Premier League football on merit, not reputation.

          Hull took the time to carefully scout and sign 20-year-old left-back Andy Robertson for just short of 3 million pounds from Dundee United, and he has started all seven Premier League matches this season. West Ham paid a similar fee for 24-year-old full-back Aaron Cresswell from Ipswich, who has played every second of top-flight football so far.

          They also loaned in 22-year-old England defender Carl Jenkinson, while QPR sold reliable right-back Danny Simpson to direct rivals Leicester City and brought in 26-year-old Chilean World Cup "star" Mauricio Isla from Juventus on loan. You see, some kids earn pocket money to buy sweets -- and some kids' parents own the chocolate factory.

          Sandro had an ugly injury record, Leroy Fer's poor form contributed to Norwich's relegation last season, Niko Kranjcar looked very unfit in the Championship last term and Loic Remy had a track record for leaving clubs in the lurch at the last minute.

          Yet what you hear from QPR is: Sandro was an excellent player at Spurs, Fer is a Netherlands international, Niko has great ability and Remy is "too nice a fella to leave us in the lurch." There's a pattern emerging.

          Rangers know best. Rangers won promotion last season. Rangers have great technical players. The QPR dressing room is full of great characters. But they're rock bottom of the Premier League with a miserable run of fixtures coming up and more questions than answers.

          Poor old Isla and fellow Chile teammate Eduardo Vargas were dropped to the bench ahead of the 2-0 loss at West Ham and neither got on the pitch as three other players were preferred ahead of them with Rangers chasing the game.

          Loans are luxury, short-term fixes that benefit both parties and they must work immediately. They must fit directly into a team and usually speak the same language; see Alex Song at West Ham, Tom Cleverley at Aston Villa and Wilfried Zaha at Crystal Palace. Instead it looks to me like Isla wasn't wanted at Juve, and the same with Vargas at Napoli. The two Serie A sides saw a sitting duck in QPR who would get them out of the way and off the wage bill for a while.

          If Isla and Vargas cannot get a second of football against West Ham, when will they? And how much do they really want to keep QPR in the Premier League? How many times did Redknapp go to Italy to watch them play?

          If that is not indicative of the effete culture around Loftus Road this time around then perhaps the signing of Rio Ferdinand is. He was an ineffective passenger in a few early fixtures but now his lack of mobility and fish-out-of-water look when stuck in the core of an under-fire defence amid a relegation battle are directly contributing to the club's downfall. He gave away a goal against Southampton and the way he defended against James Tomkins -- a gutsy but rather uncouth centre-back -- was comical.

          Ferdinand made Tomkins look like Gianfranco Zola, twisting and turning in the unfamiliar setting of the opposition penalty box before he lofted a ball over for Diafra Sakho to nod home.


          Ferdinand joined QPR in the summer but has endured a miserable start to life at the club.
          Finally, there is the appointment of Glenn Hoddle who, like Ferdinand, is a pink-champagne signing for a diet Coke palate and wallet. There are plenty of reasons big successful companies don't want to employ me, and there must be a fair few reasons no football club took Hoddle on for the last past eight years.

          A technically gifted footballer, a ripe mind ideal for picking over the nuances of European football, a handsome old devil and all. But Hoddle is not going to improve the way QPR defend set pieces, he isn't going to inspire players with Churchillian speeches and he won't help the players nurture a backs-to-the-walls, in-it-together mentality.

          It's all smoke and mirrors at QPR. Style minus substance. Talk and no action. Priceless pieces of antique art stuck on the wall with a desperate blend of chewing gum and blind hope. But it's definitely not all Redknapp's fault Rangers have got World Cup "stars" loaned in and internationals in the side on reputation. That all trickles down from the top.

          Owner Tony Fernandes informed fans on Sunday night that Remy -- somehow to blame for their very fine current mess -- was in his house having dinner 48 hours before the transfer window closed. Yet he still joined bitter rivals Chelsea.

          I wonder where Rangers would be right now if Fernandes weren't so eager to host celebrity footballers and play video games with them and instead devised a plan of action for his crumbling empire.

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          • #35
            Brilliant write up and never a truer word said

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            • #36
              priceless pieces of antique art stuck on the wall with a desperate blend of chewing gum and blind hope. spot on

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              • #37
                Agree with some of that but not all. Yes 'Arry likes aging players traditionally but only one he bought this summer was Ferdinand. Most of rest are young and with proper resale value.

                Sandro has had some injuries but also racked up over 100 appearances for Spurs who are well above us in food chain and is a Brazilian international. Niko has come back looking fit, one of our better players and took massive wage cut.

                Isla has played most matches, Vargas has played in some since he got clearance. We only have two loans this season, a marked change to previous seasons.

                Agree with most of rest but most of blame has to lie with Harry. His job to get players fit, organised and motivated and we seem to be lacking in all those things. Not saying things prefect everywhere else but for me it's down to the manager. Has been a painful two years with him at the helm apart of that nice little goal from Bobby which helped make us temporarily forget the dross we have mainly had to endure under Bagpuss.

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                • #38
                  good write some spot on Tony needs to have a good look at whats going on? because if we're relegated there's whopping £40M fine waiting for us and I think that wil be the end of Tony as well,

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                  • #39
                    if we get relegated were done for :(

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                    • #40
                      There are lots of these type of articles from 'press men' telling us what is wrong. It would be nice for once if they could suggest the way forward. Wally Downes Jnr was on the podcast the other day and spent ages going through everything that was wrong, but when asked for his opinions of the way forward he stumbled, umm'ed and arr'ed without offering anything constructive.....

                      I keep reading articles like this telling us all that's wrong with the club but no-one wants to offer a view on what should be done to get things right...
                      Last edited by Lunar Jetman; 08-10-2014, 10:10 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Lunar Jetman View Post
                        There are lots of these type of articles from 'press men' telling us what is wrong. It would be nice for once if they could suggest the way forward. Wally Downes Jnr was on the podcast the other day and spent ages going through everything that was wrong, but when asked for his opinions of the way forward he stumbled, umm'ed and arr'ed without offering anything constructive.....

                        I keep reading articles like this telling us all that's wrong with the club but no-one wants to offer a view on what should be done to get things right...
                        Spot on. Everyone and anyone can criticise things that have happened, that's easy. Also, where were all these critics we were top of the Championship?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Shepherds Mush View Post
                          Spot on. Everyone and anyone can criticise things that have happened, that's easy. Also, where were all these critics we were top of the Championship?
                          Indeed. But we didn't stay top for long, did we? And many said we were very poor when top. Yeovil away and Charlton at home spring immediately to mind.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
                            Indeed. But we didn't stay top for long, did we? And many said we were very poor when top. Yeovil away and Charlton at home spring immediately to mind.
                            Charlton away.. not a shot at goal. A lot like the away performances this year.. its been coming.

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