R’ behaviour at away games

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Too right mate.

And Jimmy, it never ceases to amaze me what some people do in order to entertain themselves. Utter knobs.

Unreal mate. Just unreal.

[vespa]

I wouldn't try and score cheap points off of you in the slightest it's muggy & not my style. It had been mentioned about being racist and you directly replied to Stanley describing it as 'a bit of chanting' I simply felt you needed pulling up on it as I know you're better than that and we as a fan base are better than that.

It's a vile song and I'm no prude. I can throw a few f***s into anyone belive me but that was below the belt. Cringed at our mob Saturday. Anyway I know you're not a racist just felt trivialising it was not the best choice. Personal opinion.

i wasnt trying to trivialize that song in particular , it was just a part of whole point i was trying ( and obviously failing ) to make , anyway you`re probably right , maybe i should have made a point ,of excluding that song from my original comment ,so as not to get misconstrued .
People on here know my political views and a few actually know me in real life ,and know my family life, so they know racism dosnt sit too comfortably with me

[vanhoop]

#### me,be careful what you say vesps!! How can what you said bang you down as a racist. Understand the kid crying because it's happened to me and I took my ban.all over standing and my lad crying. football to me when young was all about fashion, drugs,and a punch up if I'm totally honest.would scare the life out of me if my boys followed in my footsteps.Jimmy I think you jumped the gun with vesps mate,think rangers have one of the best black and white unite in the prem to be fair.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

i wasnt trying to trivialize that song in particular , it was just a part of whole point i was trying ( and obviously failing ) to make , anyway you`re probably right , maybe i should have made a point ,of excluding that song from my original comment ,so as not to get misconstrued .
People on here know my political views and a few actually know me in real life ,and know my family life, so they know racism dosnt sit too comfortably with me

Fair doos mate. You're one of the good guys I know that.

#### me,be careful what you say vesps!! How can what you said bang you down as a racist. Understand the kid crying because it's happened to me and I took my ban.all over standing and my lad crying. football to me when young was all about fashion, drugs,and a punch up if I'm totally honest.would scare the life out of me if my boys followed in my footsteps.Jimmy I think you jumped the gun with vesps mate,think rangers have one of the best black and white unite in the prem to be fair.

I did state I KNOW Vesps is not a racist van but merely felt he shouldn't trivialise a disgusting chant. He's acknowledged that & I think we both got out in the end what we were getting at after maybe a few crossed wires. It's all gravy no bad vibes here son.

[kron-1664]

TBF this isn't the place to post in order to get sympathy for victims of abuse is it, this forum is historically very pro anti social behavior!

[West Acton]

I would add two things. As a mixed race supporter I have to say my heart sank a little bit sat on the Train to Southampton with what I class as my own supporters/brothers singing what is an offensive song (and as many of you will know of me on here im not a shy or withdrawn person or someone that complains of racism quite the opposite live and let live) but when your sitting their clearly a QPR fan as you have a badge on and one of them nods at you as tey walk past recognising your a Ranger it does beg the questions do they recognise the connotations of the song. What got me most is the lack of intelligence of the six or seven teenagers singing it and they were teenagers as I honestly do not think they recognised how the song could be taken and to them there singing a song cause it rhymes in 'Remy' and 'Tree' I seriously think they were to thick to link how it could be taken out of context.

It never done the clubs rep any good as a few Southampton fans on the train were shaking their head hearing it and one passenger actually complained and the train controller walked up and told them enough was enough and they in fairness stopped it after that. But they were kids drinking cans of beer on the train thinking they were double hard but actually making themselves look rather silly. I recognise a couple of them but grassing is not my style so will have a subtle word next time I see them and tell them to smarten up.

Second point if the club think this issue is so serious that they have asked various fans forums to put a message up why have they failed to put anything official up on the website??? doing via the forums to me smacks of trying to tackle the issue on the quiet while trying to protect the clubs reputation which to some extent undermines the message they are trying to put out. Might just be me thinking that way

Should add saw the incident with the dad and the kid and believe the fans that got turfed to be trappy fans who rare up at their own at away games on previous occasions. The geezers mate trying to save his mate getting tugged by saying we can sort it out between ourselves after throwing punches was a proper bell end

[vanhoop]

I would add two things. As a mixed race supporter I have to say my heart sank a little bit sat on the Train to Southampton with what I class as my own supporters/brothers singing what is an offensive song (and as many of you will know of me on here im not a shy or withdrawn person or someone that complains of racism quite the opposite live and let live) but when your sitting their clearly a QPR fan as you have a badge on and one of them nods at you as tey walk past recognising your a Ranger it does beg the questions do they recognise the connotations of the song. What got me most is the lack of intelligence of the six or seven teenagers singing it and they were teenagers as I honestly do not think they recognised how the song could be taken and to them there singing a song cause it rhymes in 'Remy' and 'Tree' I seriously think they were to thick to link how it could be taken out of context.

It never done the clubs rep any good as a few Southampton fans on the train were shaking their head hearing it and one passenger actually complained and the train controller walked up and told them enough was enough and they in fairness stopped it after that. But they were kids drinking cans of beer on the train thinking they were double hard but actually making themselves look rather silly. I recognise a couple of them but grassing is not my style so will have a subtle word next time I see them and tell them to smarten up.

Second point if the club think this issue is so serious that they have asked various fans forums to put a message up why have they failed to put anything official up on the website??? doing via the forums to me smacks of trying to tackle the issue on the quiet while trying to protect the clubs reputation which to some extent undermines the message they are trying to put out. Might just be me thinking that way

Should add saw the incident with the dad and the kid and believe the fans that got turfed to be trappy fans who rare up at their own at away games on previous occasions. The geezers mate trying to save his mate getting tugged by saying we can sort it out between ourselves after throwing punches was a proper bell end

Good post wests,alot of my rangers mates are mixed race.we're too old now to be upset by some uneducated bell end,puppies that if you did steam over would have #### themselves. I can call a mate a spade and I get back shut it honkey,the pc just don't understand.

[kron-1664]

if you think this is bad look at this link. This is what my sons teams parents have been asked to do....
http://www.silentsideline.org/

can you believe it, i will carry on as normal of course!

[West Acton]

Good post wests,alot of my rangers mates are mixed race.we're too old now to be upset by some uneducated bell end,puppies that if you did steam over would have #### themselves. I can call a mate a spade and I get back shut it honkey,the pc just don't understand.

Spot on I get exactly what your saying there. Me and my mates give each other untold grief but its all in good nature and we all know its light hearted and their is no intention behind it but as soon as someone on the outside tries it on (either side) then their right by me on my shoulder and me vice versa if its someone trying it on with them. I don't see colour I see loyalty and people I would lay down for and who I know in a blink of an eye would lay down for me that's how I was brought up.

Immensely proud of my white heritage and equally proud of my Caribbean side actually feel lucky as I get the best of both worlds

[bushcelt1]

Spot on I get exactly what your saying there. Me and my mates give each other untold grief but its all in good nature and we all know its light hearted and their is no intention behind it but as soon as someone on the outside tries it on (either side) then their right by me on my shoulder and me vice versa if its someone trying it on with them. I don't see colour I see loyalty and people I would lay down for and who I know in a blink of an eye would lay down for me that's how I was brought up.

Immensely proud of my white heritage and equally proud of my Caribbean side actually feel lucky as I get the best of both worlds

100% with that.

[vespa]

Spot on I get exactly what your saying there. Me and my mates give each other untold grief but its all in good nature and we all know its light hearted and their is no intention behind it but as soon as someone on the outside tries it on (either side) then their right by me on my shoulder and me vice versa if its someone trying it on with them. I don't see colour I see loyalty and people I would lay down for and who I know in a blink of an eye would lay down for me that's how I was brought up.

Immensely proud of my white heritage and equally proud of my Caribbean side actually feel lucky as I get the best of both worlds

I live and work in a completely mixed environment, my immidiate family is mixed English ,Trinidadian,Irish and the area i live in is a melting pot , but for all all us born here ,we all are English ,,White ,black,mixed ,whatever.
We will take the p iss all day ,but wont ever let an outsider do it, and friendships have been formed on loyalty ,to each other and our area ( why we take the p iss but would always take a back seat against Palace )

[vespa]

Spot on I get exactly what your saying there. Me and my mates give each other untold grief but its all in good nature and we all know its light hearted and their is no intention behind it but as soon as someone on the outside tries it on (either side) then their right by me on my shoulder and me vice versa if its someone trying it on with them. I don't see colour I see loyalty and people I would lay down for and who I know in a blink of an eye would lay down for me that's how I was brought up.

Immensely proud of my white heritage and equally proud of my Caribbean side actually feel lucky as I get the best of both worlds

As ever, another good post West

[DeepcutHoop]

Good post wests,alot of my rangers mates are mixed race.we're too old now to be upset by some uneducated bell end,puppies that if you did steam over would have #### themselves. I can call a mate a spade and I get back shut it honkey,the pc just don't understand.

There is a world of difference between what is said between people who know, understand and respect each other, and what is said in public in front of others.

That's problem I have with chants of that nature and any behaviour/language like that, at games and on forums like this.

We're all QPR on here and at games,which gives a little leeway, but we are mostly strangers in the most part, and it's just good sense to remember that not everyone around you is like you and your mates. Just a basic rule of life tbh

[vespa]

There is a world of difference between what is said between people who know, understand and respect each other, and what is said in public in front of others.

That's problem I have with chants of that nature and any behaviour/language like that, at games and on forums like this.

We're all QPR on here and at games,which gives a little leeway, but we are mostly strangers in the most part, and it's just good sense to remember that not everyone around you is like you and your mates. Just a basic rule of life tbh

true enough ,pretty f uckin patronizing ,but true

[DeepcutHoop]

true enough ,pretty f uckin patronizing ,but true

Wasn't meant that way, just wanted to be careful how I put it, because people tend to get extremely defensive whenever I say anything on the subject.