Compared to the rest of the PL we look shambolic...

[BuffooneRy]

Harry is over either way - at 67 he wont do another term and there is no new contract. It's just a question of how long before TF bails. For me the remainder of Harry time is irrelevant in the longer term. Most neutrals rightly reckon we're a shambles. TF may love QPR, but he has been found wanting in terms of key appointments: ie managers.

We have to get it right next time and hopefully negotiations with his successor are well advanced, although being QPR I wouldn't bank on it. Bilic for me.

Bilic is a good shout....

[stainrodisalegend]

Harry is over either way - at 67 he wont do another term and there is no new contract. It's just a question of how long before TF bails. For me the remainder of Harry time is irrelevant in the longer term. Most neutrals rightly reckon we're a shambles. TF may love QPR, but he has been found wanting in terms of key appointments: ie managers.

We have to get it right next time and hopefully negotiations with his successor are well advanced, although being QPR I wouldn't bank on it. Bilic for me.

The TF revolution hasn't really worked yet but think you are being a bit harsh on him. He inherited Warnock and a squad that would never have survived in the prem and about a week to buy a new team. He ran out of patience with Warnock after a bad run when lots of fans were also getting restless. He then got Hughes - an appointment that was widely praised - who he backed in the market. He then responded to overwhelming fan pressure to bring in Redknapp in a desperate gamble to keep us up. In retrospect he might have been better to ignore fans and go for a lower profile, more progressive manager but ever since Ecclestone and Briatore dragged out negotiations to get top dollar for the club TF has had to do things in a bit of a panic. Personally i would have been more ruthless and retired Harry after promotion and brought in a v different type of manager but in fairness he prob wd have been lynched on here by most if he had. So he can't win really.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Pearce is doing a blinding job at forest. There b team look a gillion times better than us at spurs tonight.
Also lol at how hal9 changes every every every single thread to 'get harry out' and how shite tony is as a chairman for his choice of managers since he became chairman. Spot a post he makes that aint 'harry out', go on i double dare ya. Ha ha ha.

What is your favourite car.
Hal9 = The ford harry out.

[Midgeyboy]

I think TF is crackin.
Sure he's made mistakes but where would we be without him? I dread to think.

[hal9thou]

Personally i would have been more ruthless and retired Harry after promotion

especially since he would have gone if we'd stayed put...... I don't think TF will bail re the club but I do think sooner or later he will bail out of the Harry fan club.

Note to 'Kev' - if we weren't so shambolic on and off the park I would willingly support Harry. You just said it: Forest B look better than us. And yet you're happy with the status quo. How does that work? I remember getting a lot of grief on here (from people who couldn't face up to the reality) when it became obvious the Hughes love in was going to end in tears. We all know the rest. Even if we start playing football and get sorted - it's not impossible - Harry isn't the long term solution. Either way, the club should be lining up his successor. The fact that the mysterious contract has not been signed suggests to me that events have moved on. If things don't pick up, how long would you give him?

Re Bilic. Great stats, English experience, tactically astute and fire in the belly. We'd soon be closing down the opposition.......