Compared to the rest of the PL we look shambolic...

[BUSHRANGER1982]

We sign all these players and we're still ####. Only we could do that.

Question is, why? Annoys the sugar out of me, it does.

[West London is Rss]

Having seen the rest of the teams and judging by their results and performances....

Foxes today had the drive and desire to come back at Utd today where we surrendered meekly....

The Baggies go and win up at WHL where we folded tamely and were quite frankly shambolic and gutless.....

Warnock goes to Goodison and edges it in a 5 goal thriller.... Could you imagine us being able to do that... Rhetorical question as we all know that we would never manage that on our current form...

We looked there for the taking at a number of times and we are endebted to Sjoke's profligacy and a stunning free kick for our point yesterday....

TBH I'm dreading going to St Mary's as, whilst I will be starting the game with hope and optimism I fear that it will be another trudge back to the car wearing my hoops and avoiding the gaze of the local hobbits.....

If as I fear, we get a tonking against the Saints then I think that Harry et all will have shown that they are unable to inspire the team away from home and he has to go ASAP.....

However, Fernades has recently backed his man and used terminology such as stability etc so it won't happen for a while... Unless as expected we struggle against BFS's rampart Hammers who seem to be able to play some very entertaining football unlike the durge that Harry and his gang of dinosaurs are currently (and have been for a while) serving up......

Bottom 3 says it all and our goal difference is already and embarrassment and we're only 5 games in.....

Harry out and get Steve Clarke in.... Or if they want to be bold go and for Karl Robinson...

I know there'll be plenty on here who'll shove the old knee jerk tripe down my throat but we all know deep down the way this is headed.... Needing snookers by Xmas....

However, I am more than happy to have these words rammed firmly down my throat or up my R's if Harry et al turn it around and we suddenly become water tight at the back and Charlie finds his scoring boots....

COYR's

Great post.. your are right.. sooner or later it has to happen because I cannot see this improving overnight.

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

This is the point, I thought we spend all this money to improve the squad. It seems we're still on square one.

the OPs talking about managerial staff and tactics. we can bring whatever quality of players in expect for the very best, and we will still be poor if the managerial quality isnt there.

bringing up players on this thread (and others that have sprung up since Saturday) are like comparing apples and oranges in my opinion.

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

great post overall. like jmelanie, i want to watch MOTD before i pass full judgement, but having watched us, it seems like the tactics arent there. and rio is really starting to get on my nerves.

[BuffooneRy]

We don't have the worst players but we are the worst run club, the least stable one and we have the worst coaching / managerial setup.

Arry hasn't shown ANYTHING suggesting that he's capable of setting up a half decent team. He's a ####ing fraud. You can't blame expect the players to do it by themselves, they need proper coaching and a manager who actually gives a ####.

Arry out ASAP

Hard to disagree there big fella....

[Kevin Mcleod]

Biggest HARRY OUT! day on here in a very long time. We didn't even lose Saturday.
Must say it wasn't like it is on here whatsoever at the ground against Stoke that i heard. Not sure what that means, but I thought I would mention it.

[Toni German]

All Rio is interested in is selling his bloody book. We should never have signed him.

[Ablockhoop]

I make you completely right Kevin. At the ground the feeling was that once the team/players/management all settle in together then we actually have a great chance of completing our goal which is 17th.... Saturday was another case of bad luck. This time it was losing Barton Sandro and Mitch and being forced to changing our team again...

Once we get our strongest 11 out. + they get a few games together my view is we will be fine.

Haters need to remember that Isla and Vargas have only played a couple of games in England and rio-fer-caulker-mutch haven't even played a handful of games each yet.

Remember we came into this league as the 20th best placed team out of 20 and we are aiming for 17th. Support and patience is what we need WITH Harry as the boss....

[Kevin Mcleod]

All Rio is interested in is selling his bloody book. We should never have signed him.

Take it you aint heard about this yet then?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/22/rio-ferdinand-football-association-fifa-vice-president

[Oliver0203]

Having seen the rest of the teams and judging by their results and performances....

Foxes today had the drive and desire to come back at Utd today where we surrendered meekly....

The Baggies go and win up at WHL where we folded tamely and were quite frankly shambolic and gutless.....

Warnock goes to Goodison and edges it in a 5 goal thriller.... Could you imagine us being able to do that... Rhetorical question as we all know that we would never manage that on our current form...

We looked there for the taking at a number of times and we are endebted to Sjoke's profligacy and a stunning free kick for our point yesterday....

TBH I'm dreading going to St Mary's as, whilst I will be starting the game with hope and optimism I fear that it will be another trudge back to the car wearing my hoops and avoiding the gaze of the local hobbits.....

If as I fear, we get a tonking against the Saints then I think that Harry et all will have shown that they are unable to inspire the team away from home and he has to go ASAP.....

However, Fernades has recently backed his man and used terminology such as stability etc so it won't happen for a while... Unless as expected we struggle against BFS's rampart Hammers who seem to be able to play some very entertaining football unlike the durge that Harry and his gang of dinosaurs are currently (and have been for a while) serving up......

Bottom 3 says it all and our goal difference is already and embarrassment and we're only 5 games in.....

Harry out and get Steve Clarke in.... Or if they want to be bold go and for Karl Robinson...

I know there'll be plenty on here who'll shove the old knee jerk tripe down my throat but we all know deep down the way this is headed.... Needing snookers by Xmas....

However, I am more than happy to have these words rammed firmly down my throat or up my R's if Harry et al turn it around and we suddenly become water tight at the back and Charlie finds his scoring boots....

COYR's

Steve Clarke???

[Joe90]

Our defense is terrible and we haven't got much going on upfront. Also, the other teams seem better organised. We come together too slowly.

I will say though, after watching the Stoke game on MOTD the stats where all heavily in our favor. I did get the sense even after we went behind we weren't going to take it. There does seem to be the potential for something good. Whatever happens we need to sort out our defense. What's happened to Nedum?! Rio looks rubbish, really don't think getting him in was a good idea.

[Joe90]

Biggest HARRY OUT! day on here in a very long time. We didn't even lose Saturday.
Must say it wasn't like it is on here whatsoever at the ground against Stoke that i heard. Not sure what that means, but I thought I would mention it.

I was at the game, there didn't seem to be any bad feeling towards Harry. Myself and the lads around me were angry at the ref for most of the game. Caulker was man-handled too many times and they tried kick Kranjcar off the pitch. Stoke are a dirty team. I was really pleased in the first 10, Barton went in really hard on one of their players. It's really important to have someone like Barton who will step up to the challenge and set the tone.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

Biggest HARRY OUT! day on here in a very long time. We didn't even lose Saturday.
Must say it wasn't like it is on here whatsoever at the ground against Stoke that i heard. Not sure what that means, but I thought I would mention it.

Yes, thank goodness Kev.

[Shepherds Mush]

I'm amazed at the expectations on here. We sneaked into this league in the last few seconds of last season. We'll be in the bottom 4 all season but as long as we win that mini division then we will have started our road to premier league stability ok.

[dave58]

Find it hard to disagree, defencively we're a mess, doesn't look like we're going to score loads of goals