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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostLet's not go down the road of stating
totally incorrect facts shall we? You know full well the calculation was based on just the first four years of a new stadium, but you never look beyond that, yet you persist in misquoting me to suit your agenda. I know you're still sore about the majority wanting 35k and you being in the minority. Accept that the majority want a bigger stadium than you. You're starting to sound a very bitter fella.
You need to get over your bitterness and accept the way things are. You've had plenty of opportunity to start your campaign group but done sweet FA about it. Why not? Why haven't you lifted a finger to try and persuade the board about your 30k plan, instead of whining on here every time the subject comes up?
Either do something about it or shut up. Pretty please
You say the 'majority' voted 35k so how come Uncle T has decided to go with the original 40k figure then ?
As Hoopsmad stated the primary purpose of buying QPR FOOTBALL CLUB had been to guarantee planning permission is granted for an entertainment arena due to the community status a Football stadium holds.
As for disputing your calculations, you have just stated 29k is your forecast/guess for the 1st four years, how do you forecast us increasing from 29k if we are relegated or even just playing to finish 5th from bottom year after year ?
I'm not bitter about Uncle T & his gang of extremely rich men becoming even richer out of our football club, I'm saddened because all of this reminds of a religious cult where the brain washed blindly follow all the gumpth feed to them.
As chief of the tambourine playing, incense burning chanting brainwashed I really hope for our sake you are right Richard, because if the gang of four are right we face watching our football in a half empty stadium 90% of the time & that is only if we stay in the promised land."Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
For us that would mean around 29k."
QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm
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Public exhibitions are being held on the dates in this link:
Those who oppose the 40k plans can attend and protest against the plans. Get yourself along to some or all of them and have your say. There's no reason why the gang of four can't attend and tell the club why they object to the board's plans.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View PostI voted 30k and stated my reasons to the club at the time.
You say the 'majority' voted 35k so how come Uncle T has decided to go with the original 40k figure then ?
As Hoopsmad stated the primary purpose of buying QPR FOOTBALL CLUB had been to guarantee planning permission is granted for an entertainment arena due to the community status a Football stadium holds.
As for disputing your calculations, you have just stated 29k is your forecast/guess for the 1st four years, how do you forecast us increasing from 29k if we are relegated or even just playing to finish 5th from bottom year after year ?
I'm not bitter about Uncle T & his gang of extremely rich men becoming even richer out of our football club, I'm saddened because all of this reminds of a religious cult where the brain washed blindly follow all the gumpth feed to them.
As chief of the tambourine playing, incense burning chanting brainwashed I really hope for our sake you are right Richard, because if the gang of four are right we face watching our football in a half empty stadium 90% of the time & that is only if we stay in the promised land.
I am far from brainwashed but am happy to go along with what the board plans. Not because I don't think it will destroy or lessen our club, because it might. But by the same token it might, just might, make the club better and ensure financial and other stability for many years to come. Add to that the fact that the board know more than I do about these things, and that there is very little, if anything, that I can realistically do about it anyway. Therefore, I am going to continue to support my team, buckle up and happily go along for the ride.
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Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View PostI voted 30k and stated my reasons to the club at the time.
You say the 'majority' voted 35k so how come Uncle T has decided to go with the original 40k figure then ?
As Hoopsmad stated the primary purpose of buying QPR FOOTBALL CLUB had been to guarantee planning permission is granted for an entertainment arena due to the community status a Football stadium holds.
As for disputing your calculations, you have just stated 29k is your forecast/guess for the 1st four years, how do you forecast us increasing from 29k if we are relegated or even just playing to finish 5th from bottom year after year ?
I'm not bitter about Uncle T & his gang of extremely rich men becoming even richer out of our football club, I'm saddened because all of this reminds of a religious cult where the brain washed blindly follow all the gumpth feed to them.
As chief of the tambourine playing, incense burning chanting brainwashed I really hope for our sake you are right Richard, because if the gang of four are right we face watching our football in a half empty stadium 90% of the time & that is only if we stay in the promised land.
The majority wanted between 30-40k with the bulk wanting 35k. The board has plumped for the top end figure. I wonder if Amit objected to the 40k figure, or any of the other board members? Or were they Tony's nodding dogs?
Without going back on the research, at the time we had this debate, I produced the evidence to show how the growth will come. It's London, it's at the heart of a major new development, it's the premier league, it's a state of the art stadium. And you still believe we'd only get 20k 90% of the time? I disagree.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Tell you what Richard we way we play most of the time we'd be lucky to get 20k 90% of the time
;-}"Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
For us that would mean around 29k."
QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm
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Originally posted by Buffalo View Post
Add to that the fact that the board know more than I do about these things.
How can they know more about QPR than us ?
Uncle T et al rocked up in Shepherds Bush & in one of his first interviews stated he was going to build a new training ground & 40k stadium, he then backtracked and said he would listen to the 'experts' so he let us have our phoney survey & then decided to go with his already decided figure of 40k.
I'm sure you have been around long enough like me to have seen all the 'brilliant & clever' business men try & fail to make more money out of us.
As you also stated absolutely nothing we can do about it.
Hold tight the ride is going to be interesting !"Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
For us that would mean around 29k."
QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostPublic exhibitions are being held on the dates in this link:
Those who oppose the 40k plans can attend and protest against the plans. Get yourself along to some or all of them and have your say. There's no reason why the gang of four can't attend and tell the club why they object to the board's plans.
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Originally posted by vespa View PostWe gave our point of view in the fan survey ,and have been ignored , i dont recall the majority wanting a 40,000 stadium ,but Tony thinks he knows best.
You haven't been ignored, just outvoted. Can't please everyone, so, like everyone else, you'll just have to put up with it. Nothing stopping you and others attending the open events to complain. If you really care about the issue, and really feel you've been ignored, you should organise a protest just to let the board know how you feel.
If not, can I respectfully suggest you stop complaining about it and accept it?Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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so ,if the bulk of people didnt want a 40,000 stadium and wanted a smaller capacity ,why would you say weve been outvoted ? What was the point of the survey if our views have been ignored ,you said yourself the majority of people wanted a 35,000 stadium.
How do you know ,i havnt made my feelings clear to the club ?
And while were at it ,you cant stop people debating /complaining ,whichever way you want to look at it ,because this is a forum where people debate all things QPR ,and just because we dont agree with you , dosn`t mean we cant talk about it.Rangers,Scooters ,Tunes and Trainers
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Originally posted by vespa View Postso ,if the bulk of people didnt want a 40,000 stadium and wanted a smaller capacity ,why would you say weve been outvoted ? What was the point of the survey if our views have been ignored ,you said yourself the majority of people wanted a 35,000 stadium.
How do you know ,i havnt made my feelings clear to the club ?
And while were at it ,you cant stop people debating /complaining ,whichever way you want to look at it ,because this is a forum where people debate all things QPR ,and just because we dont agree with you , dosn`t mean we cant talk about it.
However, the majority of those wanting 30-40k want a stadium that can accommodate 35k fans. They have got their wish. The board has decided to add an additional 5k on top, and this could be because they are looking at hosting non-football related events.
The majority has got its way, the board has also got its way and can proceed with both football and non-football events, it's the minority that hasn't got their way, of which you are one. What are we all supposed to do, cave in to a vocal minority and build something the majority don't want and didn't vote for?
Of course it should be debated as it's QPR related, but ultimately, the majority opinion, those wanting 30-40k, have been heard, as have those within that group who want a stadium that can accommodate 35k fans, and perhaps you should be gracious enough to accept the majority got what they wanted.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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