A few home truths

[winalotto]

One of the problems (just one) is this sky idea of having a league table after 1 game, should not be printed until 4 games played, he got us up and no-one was complaining about him , bought well in the market and no-one was upset with players in or out , yet after 2 games fans are concerned because we are bottom of the league. The new Leeds chairman is a nutter rather like Flavio and even he gave his manager 6 games !!

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Jimmy. It isn't just two games. It's his EPL ratio with us and the desperate struggle we had getting up given the finances available. It is also the manner of the defeats. The rot has set in big time and I don't believe for a second the new contract is a reality, both sides are spinning it. I think unless things improve his head is on the block. He'll be gone after 6 league games max if there is no sign of an improvement.

He's building a new team mate. It's not hard to see.

Dunno how many times I & others have said it on here last season was all about promotion, by hook or by crook. Not pretty football. How can he be judged after 2 league games when he's brought in genuine quality to the club & is implementing a new system to accommodate those players?

Two weeks ago him & the board were geniuses & it was all rosy now everyone is acting like demented fools.

I just think everyone needs to just calmmmmmmmm down.

[Nick]

He's building a new team mate. It's not hard to see.

Dunno how many times I & others have said it on here last season was all about promotion, by hook or by crook. Not pretty football. How can he be judged after 2 league games when he's brought in genuine quality to the club & is implementing a new system to accommodate those players?

Two weeks ago him & the board were geniuses & it was all rosy now everyone is acting like demented fools.

I just think everyone needs to just calmmmmmmmm down.

Absolutely spot on about last season. Its as if some use our performances last season as 'another' stick to beat him with. It was clear from day 1 no matter how we done it as long as we got promoted!!!! And that's what happened.

Now HRs new challenge is to build a squad capable of premier league status... give the guy a chance and see if he can succeed just like he did bringing us up.

[Ginger Ninja]

He's building a new team mate. It's not hard to see.

Dunno how many times I & others have said it on here last season was all about promotion, by hook or by crook. Not pretty football. How can he be judged after 2 league games when he's brought in genuine quality to the club & is implementing a new system to accommodate those players?

Two weeks ago him & the board were geniuses & it was all rosy now everyone is acting like demented fools.

I just think everyone needs to just calmmmmmmmm down.

Best post I've seen in weeks. Couldn't have put it better.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Absolutely spot on about last season. Its as if some use our performances last season as 'another' stick to beat him with. It was clear from day 1 no matter how we done it as long as we got promoted!!!! And that's what happened.

Now HRs new challenge is to build a squad capable of premier league status... give the guy a chance and see if he can succeed just like he did bringing us up.

Spot on mate

Best post I've seen in weeks. Couldn't have put it better.

Can't get my head around the panic. Yes not ideal start but hang on. Charlie stuck away that pen as he has done with aplomb the last 9-10 he's taken we wouldn't even be having this convo. Can't get around the hysteria this soon.

[Ginger Ninja]

Can't get my head around the panic. Yes not ideal start but hang on. Charlie stuck away that pen as he has done with aplomb the last 9-10 he's taken we wouldn't even be having this convo. Can't get around the hysteria this soon.

It's frustrating because a lot of people on here and elsewhere who want Harry gone will not listen to the fact that he has brought in a number of new players, quality players, some of whom haven't had a proper pre-season, some of whom have never played in the Premier League, and these players can't be expected to start firing on all cylinders straight away. Getting rid at this early stage would be ludicrous.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

It's frustrating because a lot of people on here and elsewhere who want Harry gone will not listen to the fact that he has brought in a number of new players, quality players, some of whom haven't had a proper pre-season, some of whom have never played in the Premier League, and these players can't be expected to start firing on all cylinders straight away. Getting rid at this early stage would be ludicrous.

It would be pathetic & I don't think it's any coincidence we're hearing of a new contract at this time as I think it was leaked to get the message across abruptly & quickly that Harry's going nowhere.

What happened to QPR being a humble club? Turned into proper divas on here I'm telling ya.

[Ginger Ninja]

It would be pathetic & I don't think it's any coincidence we're hearing of a new contract at this time as I think it was leaked to get the message across abruptly & quickly that Harry's going nowhere.

What happened to QPR being a humble club? Turned into proper divas on here I'm telling ya.

You're not wrong mate. If we were still really badly struggling at Christmas time I would probably say enough is enough but not 2 league games in.
The aim was always always going to be 17th, by any means necessary, just like as you said, last season was all about promotion no matter how we did it.

[MaineHoopsFan]

Jimmy. It isn't just two games. It's his EPL ratio with us and the desperate struggle we had getting up given the finances available. It is also the manner of the defeats. The rot has set in big time and I don't believe for a second the new contract is a reality, both sides are spinning it. I think unless things improve his head is on the block. He'll be gone after 6 league games max if there is no sign of an improvement.

Disagree there, considering he came out today saying he will be signing a contract extension either this week or next.

[Rieger]

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[DeepcutHoop]

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[Rieger]

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[Dazzer1977]

Wow that is a pretty strong view but some of the points I really can't argue with.

Sat is a massive game for harry. The team really needs a win because confidence is at an all time low.

We had a poor start against hull but found our feet after 10mins, we will need to be out of the blocks straight away against a beatable sunderland side.
The next few games will decide Harry's fate

Really...? After two defeats in the Premier league confidence is at an all time low. What a load of tosh! Far worse than some of my pathetic info.

[brightonr]

He's building a new team mate. It's not hard to see.

Dunno how many times I & others have said it on here last season was all about promotion, by hook or by crook. Not pretty football. How can he be judged after 2 league games when he's brought in genuine quality to the club & is implementing a new system to accommodate those players?

Two weeks ago him & the board were geniuses & it was all rosy now everyone is acting like demented fools.

I just think everyone needs to just calmmmmmmmm down.

Whilst that is a good post and you make some very valid points, I have concerns.

If you are going to completely rebuild the squad due to being of the opinion that many/most of the current ones aren't up to the job, then fine, no problem at all with that. If Harry takes the view that Simpson, Traore, Onouha, Phillips etc., aren't good enough, then this should have been sorted out way before now and certainly in time for us to go into the new season fully prepared. There are only so many points we can get away with dropping this season, so to start with six and no goals is pretty appalling for starters.

To have lost both opening games along with the complete humiliation of Wednesday night in the cup, is pretty poor. It's also quite worrying that he felt the need to abandon his preferred system at half time, during only our second game. To now start accepting bids, smacks just as much of knee-jerk reactions as any I have seen regarding his position. If action needed taking, it should not have been left until now. These players can't have gone from acceptable to no good in two weeks.

He let us down badly during his first few months. I've lost count of the amount of posters who have complained about our style of play, HR's team selection and tactics. His man management and motivation has been called into question too.

Still happy to give the bloke the benefit of the doubt, but not for too much longer. We cannot afford for him to mess it up again. He can just retire, we have to live with the consequences.

Hopefully, he gets it right, but we have every right to expect far better than we have seen from him so far, in my opinion.

[Dazzer1977]

Whilst that is a good post and you make some very valid points, I have concerns.

If you are going to completely rebuild the squad due to being of the opinion that many/most of the current ones aren't up to the job, then fine, no problem at all with that. If Harry takes the view that Simpson, Traore, Onouha, Phillips etc., aren't good enough, then this should have been sorted out way before now and certainly in time for us to go into the new season fully prepared. There are only so many points we can get away with dropping this season, so to start with six and no goals is pretty appalling for starters.

To have lost both opening games along with the complete humiliation of Wednesday night in the cup, is pretty poor. It's also quite worrying that he felt the need to abandon his preferred system at half time, during only our second game. To now start accepting bids, smacks just as much of knee-jerk reactions as any I have seen regarding his position. If action needed taking, it should not have been left until now. These players can't have gone from acceptable to no good in two weeks.

He let us down badly during his first few months. I've lost count of the amount of posters who have complained about our style of play, HR's team selection and tactics. His man management and motivation has been called into question too.

Still happy to give the bloke the benefit of the doubt, but not for too much longer. We cannot afford for him to mess it up again. He can just retire, we have to live with the consequences.

Hopefully, he gets it right, but we have every right to expect far better than we have seen from him so far, in my opinion.

In all honesty I don't think any of those players mentioned are regular 1st team starters. Personally I'd start Yun over Traore, Isla over Simpson and Vargas, Mutch or Hoilett ahead of Philips so why would it be such an issue if any of those player leave. Harry's not stupid and I am sure if any of those do go he'll look at getting replacements in as cover. The only real player I'd be disappointed to see go is Onouha as like/rate him. Don't get me wrong they are all decent enough squad players. Matt Philips has a lot of potential, but I'm still yet to see him put in a decent run of games to warrant some of the hype. All about opinions I suppose. We're all looking in on the outside, but do remember what a pull Harry is for getting players in. If he's that bad then why do so many want to play for him?