Scaremongering earlier today.

[Nodge70]

i wouldnt call a Q.P.R fan being stabbed in the leg minor!!!!!!!!! outside foolham broadway station.

Not seen that on any of the Control Centre reports last night or today?????:shocked:

[W12_Ranger]

Rubbish.

it was minor.

that is all.

(anyone who is old enough to remember the seventies and eighties will agree)

Most patronising comment anyone can make.

Been trying to get to a keyboard all day to answer this but rushed off my feet.

I'm sick to death of listening to the 'been there, seen it, done it, not like the time we chased the Wall back to the station' brigade when it comes to this subject matter.

It is not the 70's or 80's its the 21st century.

The modern game is virtually unrecognisable from days gone by. Away matches now provide safe environment for the visiting support. The police now have far more resource available and crowd control has come a long way.

Not everyone who attends a football match is a beer belly knuckle dragging thug who had the 'privilage' off witnessing the good old days.

I never witnessed the trouble yesterday because I had the sense to distance myself as far from the ground as possible after the match as I anticipated what was inevitable. The more I hear about what happened last night the nastier it sounds, women, children, families (i.e innocent bystanders) caught up in the drama that unfolded.

So whilst a few may have gain a bit excitement and entertainment from what happened on Fulham Broadway after the match there were many who were horrified, scared and traumatised.....but its ok at least its not the 70's or 80's.

[Sam-QPR]

wasn't it nice of the old bill to send us to high street ken.

[swanleyhoop]

Rubbish.

it was minor.

that is all.

(anyone who is old enough to remember the seventies and eighties will agree)

Yep, I remember running away from far worse far more often when I was a teenager.
But by today's standards it was bad -- Josie was terrified, and I doubt I'd get her back to a game at the Bridge again.
Had to drag her into the doorway of the Chinese restaurant as the mob steamed down Fulham Road.
Didn't bother me, but it bothered her big time, and she was near hysterical despite me telling her I knew how to stay out of it.


As we got past the tube station into the road where we parked, a group of unmarked youths, plain scarves over faces etc., steamed past us. I must admit I bellowed at them to grow up and realise this is now, not the seventies, and called them all a bunch of f***ing *****s. Looking back this might not have been a good idea (!!), and Josie and Dan were urging me to stop, but I was pretty pi$$ed off by then, having seen the effect it had had on my kids and other people wheo were not old enough to have the experience to deal with what was happening.

Trouble was inevitable, but it's sad that some people think it's acceptable in this day and age, just because it happened regularly 30 years ago.

[Robsondinho]

wasn't it nice of the old bill to send us to high street ken.

Was not happy about that!!! Had to walk to Earls court for the car from there.

[themodfather]

couple of things
we should've been held in for 15 mins
police on those horses were nervy and charged anyone
police check mb for hoolie stories and evidence
chelsea near that "so" bar were ready to hit anything that moved, forget any honor...
i now consider them **** on par with sjoke and hull

[rblockells]

Most patronising comment anyone can make.

Been trying to get to a keyboard all day to answer this but rushed off my feet.

I'm sick to death of listening to the 'been there, seen it, done it, not like the time we chased the Wall back to the station' brigade when it comes to this subject matter.

It is not the 70's or 80's its the 21st century.

The modern game is virtually unrecognisable from days gone by. Away matches now provide safe environment for the visiting support. The police now have far more resource available and crowd control has come a long way.

Not everyone who attends a football match is a beer belly knuckle dragging thug who had the 'privilage' off witnessing the good old days.

I never witnessed the trouble yesterday because I had the sense to distance myself as far from the ground as possible after the match as I anticipated what was inevitable. The more I hear about what happened last night the nastier it sounds, women, children, families (i.e innocent bystanders) caught up in the drama that unfolded.

So whilst a few may have gain a bit excitement and entertainment from what happened on Fulham Broadway after the match there were many who were horrified, scared and traumatised.....but its ok at least its not the 70's or 80's.

I certainly didn't intend it to be patronising.
But to describe last night's trouble as a "full scale riot"is well over the top.
The scale of the violence at football during the seventies and eighties was way way beyond anything that happened last night.
i am NOT condoning what happened,either back then,or last night-but that is the truth,however you want to dress it up.

[THE FLYING COW]

well

well it seems to be a theme with the police to let it kick off regularily after the qpr home games
so its almost as though they are letting people have a row,many people would put the four most dangerous clubs west ham millwall chelsea and spurs in a league of there own
so chelsea maybe feel they have attack qpr to keep there reputation
im very sad that the lad got stabbed in the leg
but dont forget a chelsea fan got stabbed the last time we played them in a freindly
he got done in the askew arms
so its kind of tit for tat
BUT ITS A COMPLETE DISGRACE THAT SOMEONES CHILD WAS TRAUMATISED
MY BROTHER MAY HAVE GONE AND TAKEN HIS DAUGHTERS I HOPE IF HE DID THEY WERE OK
next time we play them in a cup game i hope everyone remembers not to take there kids
because chelsea will always be bully boys

[Receed R]

well it seems to be a theme with the police to let it kick off regularily after the qpr home games
so its almost as though they are letting people have a row,many people would put the four most dangerous clubs west ham millwall chelsea and spurs in a league of there own
so chelsea maybe feel they have attack qpr to keep there reputation
im very sad that the lad got stabbed in the leg
but dont forget a chelsea fan got stabbed the last time we played them in a freindly
he got done in the askew arms
so its kind of tit for tat
BUT ITS A COMPLETE DISGRACE THAT SOMEONES CHILD WAS TRAUMATISED
MY BROTHER MAY HAVE GONE AND TAKEN HIS DAUGHTERS I HOPE IF HE DID THEY WERE OK
next time we play them in a cup game i hope everyone remembers not to take there kids
because chelsea will always be bully boys

you seem to have changed your tune from wednesday

why should people be put off not taking their kids because of all these fools?

[W12_Ranger]

I certainly didn't intend it to be patronising.
But to describe last night's trouble as a "full scale riot"is well over the top.
The scale of the violence at football during the seventies and eighties was way way beyond anything that happened last night.
i am NOT condoning what happened,either back then,or last night-but that is the truth,however you want to dress it up.

"full scale riot" is something I've already covered on Dotorg which I know you would have read.

It was not my quote it belonged to someone whose son was injured and whose daughter was nearly trampled by police horse and confronted by baton weilding police who were laying into fans.

As Swanleyhoop has outlined maybe not quite the 70's or 80's but by todays standards pretty serious.

RBlockells its not you I'm having a dig at directly as you are not one to glorify this kind of behaviour at all.

[hammer]

i feel sorry for swanleys daughter i really do.it must be an horrible and scary experience for the young lady.

[kevinQPR]

well it seems to be a theme with the police to let it kick off regularily after the qpr home games
so its almost as though they are letting people have a row,many people would put the four most dangerous clubs west ham millwall chelsea and spurs in a league of there own
so chelsea maybe feel they have attack qpr to keep there reputation
im very sad that the lad got stabbed in the leg
but dont forget a chelsea fan got stabbed the last time we played them in a freindly
he got done in the askew arms
so its kind of tit for tat
BUT ITS A COMPLETE DISGRACE THAT SOMEONES CHILD WAS TRAUMATISED
MY BROTHER MAY HAVE GONE AND TAKEN HIS DAUGHTERS I HOPE IF HE DID THEY WERE OK
next time we play them in a cup game i hope everyone remembers not to take there kids
because chelsea will always be bully boys

I was at the Broadway when the stabbing happened and there were a few Chelsea trying to mingle with QPR and visa versa so the chap that got stabbed I believe it was Chelsea and not QPR, Chelsea had a point to prove after the F.A Cup game last year but come unstuck again which they deserved rightly so, I was around in the 70's and 80's which was naughty but now its all handbags, Knives are not the way forward, if you get caught with a knife you do time end of, If they want to meet then it should be Policed and put them in an open ground and let them slug it out without any prevention from Police with no bottles or knives or any weapon of any description. Then lets see who wins, unfortunately the Police just stand there and nick anyone they want and give them banning orders so if you are stuck in the middle and an innocent bystander then then you are done by the police and cannot go to any games, What justification is that
Rant over

[Gtleighsr3]

Right Chelsea over,all ready for the visit of the Barnsley 5 0 next.Stand Rs stand!