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[Rangersw12]

I have joined this late but dazzer is spot on. Henry needs improving as he is a championship player and will get found at for dwelling on the ball. Some players like delaney have somehow managed the step up, however these players are always close to making a wreckless mistake when they clearly have a lck of ability

The same can be said for Barton

[Dazzer1977]

Dazzer not disputing the Burnley error I agree with that your right. But we would have lost one nil anyway so that error actually never really cost us anything

Your words were that he cost us automatic promotion with his errors costing us points and goals at home??? He may not set the world alight but honestly other then Burnley I cannot think of an error he made which cost us goals let alone points. Has he made errors with short passes yes but so did STC and Barton etc on occasions

Did his alleged errors cost us more points then Dunne's or BAE mistakes in my view no

That was a six pointer. We was on top at that point and I firmly believe if we would of took the lead we'd have won that game. The shocker pass across the face of goal was dreadful but he got away with it. Ok point taken, I agree it wasn't him that cost us and maybe my comment was a bit steep on him. I just don't rate him and he wasn't good enough in the Championship so how people think he's good enough in the Premiership against the worlds best is just crazy.

As for BAE, don't get em started (he actually did cost us an automatic spot!).

[Dazzer1977]

The same can be said for Barton

All about opinions. IMO if you think Barton is only good enough for the Championship then I think you need your head tested. Normally people with this opinion don't like him based on his background/past. As a footballer he one of the best, if not the best at the club. Even Harry would tell you that.

[MYU]

Henry wasn't a very good squad player in Championship?? He too slow on the ball, has the turning circle of a tug boat, gets caugh in pocession of the ball and his passing over 15 yards is subject to debate. How does that make him a very good squad player given we are now a Premiership side? I certainly wouldn't have any confidence taking Joey to bring him on as a replacement.

As for the comment about wages, he's on shed loads of cash for what he brings to the side. Wolves got shot of him because his wages were collosal for a League 1 side as he was on his old Premiership contract.

You're missing the point, Henry would be a good defensive squad player to bring on when we need to hold out. I can't see Henry on big big wages, but I guess none of us know for sure.

We know Henry will be happy to be a squad player, who else would come in and be happy to sit on the bench and wait their turn?

Henry would not be the player you'd bring on to try win a game, that's why I'd have him in my squad. He's good on the piano as well, to calm things down and relax the players!

[Rangersw12]

All about opinions. IMO if you think Barton is only good enough for the Championship then I think you need your head tested. Normally people with this opinion don't like him based on his background/past. As a footballer he one of the best, if not the best at the club. Even Harry would tell you that.

He certainly needs to step up as he wasn't good enough the last time we were in the Premier League

He got away with it last season but he will be found out again this year if he carries on giving the ball away , gives away stupid fouls and doesn't improve on his set pieces

[SammyKojoe]

Am with Dazzer on this. I will even boom if you want proof.

Henry was a squad player at Championship level. When he came on in games/started it got people nervous as he is not really good enough to be a Championship player hence he was often a sub or not used. At that level though for 20 mins or so he could do an okay and a reasonable job without being good enough to do it week in week out.

If that is his level - how is he now deemed good enough to play at the top level? He should not be anywhere near the pitch be it for 1 minute or 90. People seem to think he can do a job for 20 minutes but he will get torn apart and rings run round him. He barely was good enough to do that 20 minute job in the Championship so how can he now suddenly be good enough to do it at the top level?

Someone tried to be clever as well and say Clint/Dunne should be in the same boat as Henry. Difference is Hill and Dunne played week in/week out in the Championship and often very well at that level. Hence why they can play some part in the Premiership to do a job. Not every week but if you can perform well most weeks in the Championship you should be able to do a job when called upon in the Premiership. Henry was a squad player in the Championship and that is as high as he ever will be.

[West Acton]

Someone tried to be clever as well and say Clint/Dunne should be in the same boat as Henry. Difference is Hill and Dunne played week in/week out in the Championship and often very well at that level. Hence why they can play some part in the Premiership to do a job. Not every week but if you can perform well most weeks in the Championship you should be able to do a job when called upon in the Premiership. Henry was a squad player in the Championship and that is as high as he ever will be.

Ok Sammy

[Hove Ranger]

Am with Dazzer on this. I will even boom if you want proof.

Henry was a squad player at Championship level. When he came on in games/started it got people nervous as he is not really good enough to be a Championship player hence he was often a sub or not used. At that level though for 20 mins or so he could do an okay and a reasonable job without being good enough to do it week in week out.

If that is his level - how is he now deemed good enough to play at the top level? He should not be anywhere near the pitch be it for 1 minute or 90. People seem to think he can do a job for 20 minutes but he will get torn apart and rings run round him. He barely was good enough to do that 20 minute job in the Championship so how can he now suddenly be good enough to do it at the top level?

Someone tried to be clever as well and say Clint/Dunne should be in the same boat as Henry. Difference is Hill and Dunne played week in/week out in the Championship and often very well at that level. Hence why they can play some part in the Premiership to do a job. Not every week but if you can perform well most weeks in the Championship you should be able to do a job when called upon in the Premiership. Henry was a squad player in the Championship and that is as high as he ever will be.

Didnt henry captain Wolves to win the championship and then remained their captain for their first 2 seasons in the prem? so he has played at a higher level than championship?

[West London is Rss]

Don't be surprised to see him leave for Ipswich anyway

[Greg1882]

Didnt henry captain Wolves to win the championship and then remained their captain for their first 2 seasons in the prem? so he has played at a higher level than championship?

Yeah he did mate but don't let facts get in the way of a good player bashing

[West Acton]

Didnt henry captain Wolves to win the championship and then remained their captain for their first 2 seasons in the prem? so he has played at a higher level than championship?

Did he not play prem football with Stoke too???

[dogsrrs]

Don't be surprised to see him leave for Ipswich anyway

I'm open to him staying or going and the shortsieghted negativety thrown at him is mindless , but I think H will let him go Where I don't know ! but Norwich might be the best option

[West London is Rss]

I think another midfielder or 2 in and he will go the other way

[stationcafe]

Didnt henry captain Wolves to win the championship and then remained their captain for their first 2 seasons in the prem? so he has played at a higher level than championship?

He also captained them to relegation to League 1…

He's never been great and he's about to turn 32, it's best he moves on.

[Rangers77]

Am with Dazzer on this. I will even boom if you want proof.

Henry was a squad player at Championship level. When he came on in games/started it got people nervous as he is not really good enough to be a Championship player hence he was often a sub or not used. At that level though for 20 mins or so he could do an okay and a reasonable job without being good enough to do it week in week out.

If that is his level - how is he now deemed good enough to play at the top level? He should not be anywhere near the pitch be it for 1 minute or 90. People seem to think he can do a job for 20 minutes but he will get torn apart and rings run round him. He barely was good enough to do that 20 minute job in the Championship so how can he now suddenly be good enough to do it at the top level?

Someone tried to be clever as well and say Clint/Dunne should be in the same boat as Henry. Difference is Hill and Dunne played week in/week out in the Championship and often very well at that level. Hence why they can play some part in the Premiership to do a job. Not every week but if you can perform well most weeks in the Championship you should be able to do a job when called upon in the Premiership. Henry was a squad player in the Championship and that is as high as he ever will be.

This is Kelvin to a tee.