Slightly worried (if the rumours are true)

[Mattyqpr]

If this is the case, it's TF stepping on PB's toes or reining him in. Neither bodes well. Either the communication lines are down between Fernandes and Beard or Harry has got Phil Beard's ear and PB has gone rogue.

I have no problem with TF reigning in Beard, that would make my day. It's concerning though if true. I think TF should have the final say on the contract side of matters but obviously something has gone wrong with this deal. At least it's early on and the problems shouldn't exist for future deals.

[maidstone_hoop]

I'd be happy not signing Rio if it meant we got Caulker/Lascelles or both. Maybe TF vetoed Ferdinand once these players became available?

Me too - if we signed bothg those youngsters id be loving it. Be a rough ride still though as caulker aint the finished article and lascelles isnt tested at this level but both great investments and could play at the heart of our defence for the next 2- 3 years.

As for beard and the rio rumour I wouldnt read much into it and tbf as much as i think rio on a decent deal is good business of the board are worrying about paying 60 k to a player of 35 tells me they have learnt their lessons.
We were all going mad when we were playing the likes of swp, johnson ect that type of doh.

[Jeems]

PB was hired is to get OOC sorted, everything else is a secondary

[Del]

Would anybody care to explain what poor old Phil Beard has done this time?
Seems to me that some can't wait to blame him whilst knowing absolutely nothing about how the club go about their business. If there were any truth in this rumour at all, the one certainty is that it definitely was not Phil Beard who decided upon it.

Unbelievable!!

Spot on.

What amazes me the most is the OP's comments would lead you to believe Harry is some sort of transfer messiah who does no wrong and should be allowed to sign who he wants. What a pathetic logic. Yeah because, he's never signed a dud or made some ridiculous choices has he.....?

I'm glad the powers that be are "interfering" if that means stopping him signing all his old pals act gang who are all past their best and would expect over the top wages, such as the likes of Crouch, Defoe etc.

With regards to Rio, maybe things have changed, but to try to make Phil Beard a scapegoat if it, or any other deal, falls through is laughable without knowing the facts, which clearly you don't. He's there as a mediator / facilitator / negotiator, whatever you want to refer to him as, but he will be working within the boundaries set out to him by his superiors. IF agents or players try to overstep them then he will be doing what he's paid to do, regardless what Harry wants, and that is the way it should be. If deals collapse as a result so be it!

[QPRNY]

A similar situation happened last year when Harry wanted to sign Wayne Bridge, but was overruled. That turned out for the best, and hopefully so will this situation.

[Lunar Jetman]

We've offered Rio a contract though and then changed it at the 11th hour, presumably after he's come back from Brazil to sign the original deal. You think that's professional?

He's still out in Brazil.......And what evidence have you got that we've actually offered him a contract yet?

[3London]

He's still out in Brazil.......And what evidence have you got that we've actually offered him a contract yet?

Exactly. it would be good know where the info of a contract offer has come from...nothing from the club at all.

[hh9]

A similar situation happened last year when Harry wanted to sign Wayne Bridge, but was overruled. That turned out for the best, and hopefully so will this situation.

This - TF blocked that move,
And if we get the 2 youngsters, with Onuoha, there is no need for another old one we have Dunne and Hill.
If Rio had an offer and did not sign it - it is his problem - no way we can wait in modern football

[Mattyqpr]

Spot on.

What amazes me the most is the OP's comments would lead you to believe Harry is some sort of transfer messiah who does no wrong and should be allowed to sign who he wants. What a pathetic logic. Yeah because, he's never signed a dud or made some ridiculous choices has he.....?

I'm glad the powers that be are "interfering" if that means stopping him signing all his old pals act gang who are all past their best and would expect over the top wages, such as the likes of Crouch, Defoe etc.

With regards to Rio, maybe things have changed, but to try to make Phil Beard a scapegoat if it, or any other deal, falls through is laughable without knowing the facts, which clearly you don't. He's there as a mediator / facilitator / negotiator, whatever you want to refer to him as, but he will be working within the boundaries set out to him by his superiors. IF agents or players try to overstep them then he will be doing what he's paid to do, regardless what Harry wants, and that is the way it should be. If deals collapse as a result so be it!

Transfer messiah? Where have I said anything about Harry's transfer dealings in the past? Pathetic comment.

You say without knowing the facts, yet bang on about Harry signing Crouch and Defoe, that a fact is it?

Phil Beard is a negotiator, correct. Therefore my point of the changing of the contract at the 11th hour would be his doing. Whether it be from TF telling him to lower it or not. The original talks take place with Beard, therefore he's offered Rio the original terms, this is of course, if it's all true, hence the title clearly stating, if the rumours are true.

Can you not read properly? I've constantly said throughout the thread that if the demands of a player don't fit then the deal should be cancelled. What you can't do though is move the goalposts, which is what has supposedly happened. I couldn't care either way if Rio signs, I'd rather he didn't, but it's not professional or good practice to move the goalposts on contract offers.

[Mattyqpr]

He's still out in Brazil.......And what evidence have you got that we've actually offered him a contract yet?

He was back in England last week, presumably to tie this deal up.

[twranger]

We've offered Rio a contract though and then changed it at the 11th hour, presumably after he's come back from Brazil to sign the original deal. You think that's professional?

You know absolutely nothing for sure - pure speculation on your part and what you've gleaned from the press.
Unless you work for QPR that is, which is very doubtful. Whatever happens, happens....not worth "worrying" about.

[Mattyqpr]

You know absolutely nothing for sure - pure speculation on your part and what you've gleaned from the press.
Unless you work for QPR that is, which is very doubtful. Whatever happens, happens....not worth "worrying" about.

So Rio didn't fly back to London last week and hold talks with the club? How do I know this? Spoke to him on the tube exactly one week ago.

[stainrodisalegend]

Never understood why some think transfers should purely be the decision of the manager. These are massive financial commitments that will determine the entire future of our club. A player's wages alone could amount to say £10m over the course of a contract. If I owned the club I certainly wouldn't leave such massive decisions in the hands of a man who by his own admission can't write, and who was revealed to have a Monaco bank account named after his dog. Lots of people were saying the same about Hughes being entitled to make decisions: well he is long departed and the club will be picking up the bill for years to come. Sure, the manager needs to identify targets but the owner is perfectly entitled to say "that's too much money for a 35-year-old player". Only a few months ago when the accounts were published lots of fans were complaining that the board hadn't kept a tighter control on the purse strings.

[Oliver0203]

I would be more than slightly worried if the board wasn't interfering in Harry's purchasing preferences right now. He is no saint, in fact Hughes seemed much more saintly when he took over and look where his free reign got us at the end. TF and Co, please control the purse string and have your say/veto by all means!!

Your having a laugh right???? TF has made more ****s up then most, he and beard got their pants pulled down by Hughes, if it wasn't for Harry we would still be in the championship if not worse league 1, Harry has saved TF by getting back in the Premiership, let Harry get in who he trusts as for Phil beard he should never be let anywhere near a football club

[Lunar Jetman]

You know absolutely nothing for sure - pure speculation on your part and what you've gleaned from the press.
Unless you work for QPR that is, which is very doubtful. Whatever happens, happens....not worth "worrying" about.

Its amazing that some people will, on one hand take the media's word for it when it suits them and on the other, denounce them as ill informed when it doesn't. The only true source of reliable information is the club and so far, they've said nothing about Rio Ferdinand....