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  • #16
    Remy, Adel, Cesar, & Mbia would all improve our team IMO. All of them have done well this season though at bigger and better clubs things then QPR so probably have offers else where.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Factamondo View Post
      none....only want those who stayed and put things right....joey,junior,greeno,bz all could have stayed in prem but chose to stay n fight to gain their deserved qpr cult hero status!
      LOL a bunch of players who looked terrible in the PL earning 50-80k per week. Yeah I bet Premier League teams were queueing up to buy them last summer.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Robsondinho View Post
        Remy, Adel, Cesar, & Mbia would all improve our team IMO. All of them have done well this season though at bigger and better clubs things then QPR so probably have offers else where.
        Improve our team, how? None of them want to be here. Also I struggle to see what the love in with Cesar seems to be? He was absolutely shocking apart from the odd game. In fact he was the biggest mercenary of anyone that we signed and people want him back? Someone who was happy to sit on his **** and pick up his 80k a week wages and wouldn't move to another club who wouldn't pay him such an amount. He's a disgrace and would have happily put his world cup participation at risk just for money. Cesar would be the first player to be made available for free if I had my way. Unfortunately Harry loves him though and will no doubt have him as number one next season!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
          Improve our team, how? None of them want to be here. Also I struggle to see what the love in with Cesar seems to be? He was absolutely shocking apart from the odd game. In fact he was the biggest mercenary of anyone that we signed and people want him back? Someone who was happy to sit on his **** and pick up his 80k a week wages and wouldn't move to another club who wouldn't pay him such an amount. He's a disgrace and would have happily put his world cup participation at risk just for money. Cesar would be the first player to be made available for free if I had my way. Unfortunately Harry loves him though and will no doubt have him as number one next season!
          Say your job is paying you 40k a year or whatever the going rate is in your industry and you wasn't happy. Would you jump ship to another company offereing you 20k a year? Football to footballers is a job, like construction is a job to me, sometimes I hate it and can't be bothered but the wage is to good to go elsewhere.

          Also Cesars CV tells me he is a bit better then shocking fella

          Do agree with you though that IMO Harry will want to keep him.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
            Is that a deliberately emotive way of phrasing it? Players getting sent on loan is hardly a 'deserter'. Several youth players were sent on loan for experience. Were they deserters?

            Part of Harry's remit was to reduce the wage bill of contracted players. So he had to send several of them on loan. The players weren't given a choice because theyre under contract. They may not have all been 'the right sort' but thats a separate argument.
            This.

            It's ****ed up to put them all in the same bracket.

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            • #21
              Some of those that 'deserted' like Granero, Remy, Taarabt and Mbia were probably sent out on loan because the club needed to reduce the wage bill.

              Maybe the club released the wrong sort like Cisse, Bosingwa, Bothroyd, Campbell, Ferdinand.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Robsondinho View Post
                Remy, Adel, Cesar, & Mbia would all improve our team IMO. All of them have done well this season though at bigger and better clubs things then QPR so probably have offers else where.
                I don't think Cesar at this stage of his career is an improvement on Rob Green.

                Also I don't think M'bia would be either. He might of had a good year but he proved in the premier league it was to fast for him and he was a liability. A player that has an awful 1st touch and made some shocking errors. Wouldn't be a player i'd like to watch again but I agree with the others.
                I played sunday league football today.

                Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Robsondinho View Post
                  Say your job is paying you 40k a year or whatever the going rate is in your industry and you wasn't happy. Would you jump ship to another company offereing you 20k a year? Football to footballers is a job, like construction is a job to me, sometimes I hate it and can't be bothered but the wage is to good to go elsewhere.

                  Also Cesars CV tells me he is a bit better then shocking fella

                  Do agree with you though that IMO Harry will want to keep him.
                  That's from Cesar's point of view, not the club. As a fan of the club, I don't want players here, who don't want to be here yet are happy to stay because of the wage.

                  As for Cesar's CV, again, another poor point. Who cares about his past? Bosingwa is a prime example, SWP another. It's means nothing.

                  Inter bombed Cesar out because his ability has dropped massively. He's so good he ended up at LR and ended up at Toronto in January. He's finished.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
                    That's from Cesar's point of view, not the club. As a fan of the club, I don't want players here, who don't want to be here yet are happy to stay because of the wage.

                    As for Cesar's CV, again, another poor point. Who cares about his past? Bosingwa is a prime example, SWP another. It's means nothing.

                    Inter bombed Cesar out because his ability has dropped massively. He's so good he ended up at LR and ended up at Toronto in January. He's finished.
                    Will probably win the golden glove and probably win the world cup at this years world cup. If that is finished , fair play to him.

                    Is he the best keeper in the world these days, NO.
                    Is he the best keeper in the premiership if he is to come back, NO.
                    Is he better then Green, YES.
                    So would he improve QPR if he was to come back, YES.

                    Not trying to make him out as the best keeper in the world, but if he would improve QPR like the original questions ask, then I will debate until the cows come home with people who think he won't.
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                    • #25
                      As far as I'm concerned if Harry doesn't want them then that's good enough for me. We had a lousy dressing room when he took over and now it's anything but. That's his most important achievement and it's going to be essential in the big league.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
                        Improve our team, how? None of them want to be here. Also I struggle to see what the love in with Cesar seems to be? He was absolutely shocking apart from the odd game. In fact he was the biggest mercenary of anyone that we signed and people want him back? Someone who was happy to sit on his **** and pick up his 80k a week wages and wouldn't move to another club who wouldn't pay him such an amount. He's a disgrace and would have happily put his world cup participation at risk just for money. Cesar would be the first player to be made available for free if I had my way. Unfortunately Harry loves him though and will no doubt have him as number one next season!
                        I think you are wrong about Harry loving Cesar. Even before he came to Rangers, he said what a good goalkeeper he thought Green was. He stuck to him at the end of last season and this season and see no reason why he would replace him with Cesar next season.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
                          Improve our team, how? None of them want to be here. Also I struggle to see what the love in with Cesar seems to be? He was absolutely shocking apart from the odd game. In fact he was the biggest mercenary of anyone that we signed and people want him back? Someone who was happy to sit on his **** and pick up his 80k a week wages and wouldn't move to another club who wouldn't pay him such an amount. He's a disgrace and would have happily put his world cup participation at risk just for money. Cesar would be the first player to be made available for free if I had my way. Unfortunately Harry loves him though and will no doubt have him as number one next season!
                          lol, clueless. "absolutely shocking apart from the odd game" is miles off. To take one example, his average rating on the loft for words fan poll was higher than any of our midfielders aside from Townsend, who got the same score (6.90). Would you say Townsend was "absolutely shocking apart from the odd game"?

                          Rob Green won the play-offs with West Ham then immediately ditched them for moneybags QPR, where he then sat on the bench for the next year. Did you spend the January 2013 transfer window screaming at Green to leave? I doubt it.

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                          • #28
                            Granero the only one I'd have back.
                            Meet me by the railway tracks

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