For Harry haters, it's personal

[DeepcutHoop]

Couldn't agree more fishy.....the situation without Charlie dictated the style of play up to a point.

Style of play was much the same with and without Charlie, it just worked better with him obviously.

Was a grind of a season from an entertainment point of view, pragmatic and mostly efficient. Crap to watch. Worth it in the end, for that last moment of utter, utter joy.

My fear with Redknapp staying is that we will do the same next year, as it is vital we stay up. I don't think playing the same way again will work to keep us up in the Prem, personally.

[Rangers77]

Don't know about that as surely Diakite is the man he is talking about with mental issues, and says he is on 100k a week.

No it's Samba

In January 2012 Redknapp’s chairman signed a player for a huge transfer fee, put him on £100,000 a week, only for the manager to then find out he wasn’t fit and was ‘mentally fragile’.

He was as fat as a fool and went to pieces at Fulham. After which he never played again. The other mad fella was signed in 2011.

[brightonr]

Style of play was much the same with and without Charlie, it just worked better with him obviously.

Was a grind of a season from an entertainment point of view, pragmatic and mostly efficient. Crap to watch. Worth it in the end, for that last moment of utter, utter joy.

My fear with Redknapp staying is that we will do the same next year, as it is vital we stay up. I don't think playing the same way again will work to keep us up in the Prem, personally.

Agree with every word of that. Obviously hoping though, that having seen that approach fail abysmally in his first season, he wouldn't make the same mistake again.

Something tells me we will see a much better effort from him this time.

[easthertsr]

For f*ks sake, we came down in a complete shambles and now we are back up! Where are Reading and Wigan? give the man some credit FFS!

[DeepcutHoop]

For f*ks sake, we came down in a complete shambles and now we are back up! Where are Reading and Wigan? give the man some credit FFS!

I did. He did what was necessary as he saw it, and was vindicated by promotion.

Just saying it was hard to watch for the most part.

[klonk]

Clint sacrificed himself for the Wigan game but not at Wembley - it was Harry's decision to take Hill off, after lengthy deliberations with Jordan and Bond.

This is all discussed in the latest QPR podcast with Onuoha, Fernandes and Ian Taylor on as guests.

steve *****ridge claimed on the bbc that harry was about to take hoilett off before clint intervened (he was being uncharacteristically complimentary towards us for once)... for once, i thought he was right.

[Robsondinho]

No it's Samba

In January 2012 Redknapp’s chairman signed a player for a huge transfer fee, put him on £100,000 a week, only for the manager to then find out he wasn’t fit and was ‘mentally fragile’.

He was as fat as a fool and went to pieces at Fulham. After which he never played again. The other mad fella was signed in 2011.

OK my bad, cheers.

[FurtiveFox]

I think 'Harry haters' is a little juvenile. I doubt if anyone on here actually hates him. It's more a case of if they think he's a good manager or not. Personally I think he comes across as amiable enough and likeable.

I'm not a great fan of him as a manager either here or elsewhere. At Spurs yes great start but overall spent a lot of money on a lot players, many of whom flopped, and never managed to turn them into title challengers. Did no more than expected. Here, he inherited a nightmare but after getting within a few points of safety for reasons best known to him changed tactics and selections and we plummeted. Whilst not to blame for the initial mess he was disappointing for us in the Premiership.

More difficult to gauge is this season. In my view we had a lot of instances of odd selections and questionable tactics not to mention boring football. That said the job done last summer by him and the board both in terms of clearing out the rubbish and recruiting new players was very impressive. It has to be remembered we were not talking about replacing say half a dozen people, it wasn't much short of a whole team in a different league. My main criticism on the recruitment was they got in totally wrong on strikers. In both windows they kept going for players we were unlikely to get which left us just getting Charlie (by luck really) in the first window and then scrabbling around like mad in January and getting mostly rubbish in, Doyle aside. That left us very short, particularly when Charlie injured and cost us points. What impressed me though in the play offs was the spirit and grit shown by the side and which to me demonstrated a togetherness and that the dressing room is in a pretty good place.

To win over people like me 'Arry needs to finish building the squad, keep the dressing room good and get the team to start playing the more entertaining style of football he became known for. Last season was all about rebuilding. Now is about building on those foundations and trying to get some stability.

[Olly]

Everything Harry did this season was dictated by players available, including strikers he wasn't able to buy, injuries and the promotion remit.

Harry haters have got egg on their face because they couldn't read the season and only saw each 'bad' game in isolation and each time vented all their anger on him and players. They're too stubborn to admit they got it wrong.

This season after loads of players have gone will allow Harry to buy the play style he wants. Can't remember him playing negative at his previous clubs so why should he want to start it here?.

[stanistheman]

Redknapp done the best with what he had.

If Austin didn't get injured we would have gone up automatically.

So not a bad season on reflection.

Credit were credit is due, Redknapp did what h e had to do with the players he had,

Thanks to the FL's 'unfair to relegated clubs' FFP rules QPR did not have much money to spend last season.
Having released, sold or loaned out 19 players, he had to supplement the squad with free, slow but experienced, players like Dunne, O'Neil, Krancjar and Benayoun, to add to the likes of Hill, Barton, Johnson which resulted in QPR defending deep and playing a negative keep ball style of play.

Had those injuries to Austin and Phillips not occurred, QPR would almost certainly have remained in the top 2.

Some of the football QPR have played under Redknapp, has been mind numbingly boring, but that in no small part has been down to the squads available to him (the 1st lot seemed to be disjointed, unbalanced with a number of them only interested in collecting their pay each month), the 2nd, as stated above, were slow and often uninspiring, but experienced and effective.

I would rather judge Redknapp on what he can achieve next season, if he at least gets to assemble a squad of players that can defend and attack in a more enjoyable style of play.

[Stanley]

Credit were credit is due, Redknapp did what h e had to do with the players he had,

Thanks to the FL's 'unfair to relegated clubs' FFP rules QPR did not have much money to spend last season.
Having released, sold or loaned out 19 players, he had to supplement the squad with free, slow but experienced, players like Dunne, O'Neil, Krancjar and Benayoun, to add to the likes of Hill, Barton, Johnson which resulted in QPR defending deep and playing a negative keep ball style of play.

Had those injuries to Austin and Phillips not occurred, QPR would almost certainly have remained in the top 2.

Some of the football QPR have played under Redknapp, has been mind numbingly boring, but that in no small part has been down to the squads available to him (the 1st lot seemed to be disjointed, unbalanced with a number of them only interested in collecting their pay each month), the 2nd, as stated above, were slow and often uninspiring, but experienced and effective.

I would rather judge Redknapp on what he can achieve next season, if he at least gets to assemble a squad of players that can defend and attack in a more enjoyable style of play.

Good post Stan, agree with every word.

[brightonr]

I think 'Harry haters' is a little juvenile. I doubt if anyone on here actually hates him. It's more a case of if they think he's a good manager or not. Personally I think he comes across as amiable enough and likeable.

I'm not a great fan of him as a manager either here or elsewhere. At Spurs yes great start but overall spent a lot of money on a lot players, many of whom flopped, and never managed to turn them into title challengers. Did no more than expected. Here, he inherited a nightmare but after getting within a few points of safety for reasons best known to him changed tactics and selections and we plummeted. Whilst not to blame for the initial mess he was disappointing for us in the Premiership.

More difficult to gauge is this season. In my view we had a lot of instances of odd selections and questionable tactics not to mention boring football. That said the job done last summer by him and the board both in terms of clearing out the rubbish and recruiting new players was very impressive. It has to be remembered we were not talking about replacing say half a dozen people, it wasn't much short of a whole team in a different league. My main criticism on the recruitment was they got in totally wrong on strikers. In both windows they kept going for players we were unlikely to get which left us just getting Charlie (by luck really) in the first window and then scrabbling around like mad in January and getting mostly rubbish in, Doyle aside. That left us very short, particularly when Charlie injured and cost us points. What impressed me though in the play offs was the spirit and grit shown by the side and which to me demonstrated a togetherness and that the dressing room is in a pretty good place.

To win over people like me 'Arry needs to finish building the squad, keep the dressing room good and get the team to start playing the more entertaining style of football he became known for. Last season was all about rebuilding. Now is about building on those foundations and trying to get some stability.

Very good post mate. And regardless of anything else, having got us up, he deserves us to get behind him now. Hope he makes a real success of it before retiring happily.

[Geng]

Credit were credit is due, Redknapp did what h e had to do with the players he had,

Thanks to the FL's 'unfair to relegated clubs' FFP rules QPR did not have much money to spend last season.
Having released, sold or loaned out 19 players, he had to supplement the squad with free, slow but experienced, players like Dunne, O'Neil, Krancjar and Benayoun, to add to the likes of Hill, Barton, Johnson which resulted in QPR defending deep and playing a negative keep ball style of play.

Sorry, this is ridiculous. The four players I've bolded will all be on Premier League wages. We were constantly outplayed by the likes of Yeovil or Bournemouth whose entire starting XIs will be paid less than Krancjar and Dunne put together.

This isn't the 1990s anymore. Wages are far, far more important than transfer fees. And signing experienced for "free" on high salaries is a lot more expensive than spending a few mil on 22yr olds with resale value.

[MYU]

Credit were credit is due, Redknapp did what h e had to do with the players he had,

Thanks to the FL's 'unfair to relegated clubs' FFP rules QPR did not have much money to spend last season.
Having released, sold or loaned out 19 players, he had to supplement the squad with free, slow but experienced, players like Dunne, O'Neil, Krancjar and Benayoun, to add to the likes of Hill, Barton, Johnson which resulted in QPR defending deep and playing a negative keep ball style of play.

Had those injuries to Austin and Phillips not occurred, QPR would almost certainly have remained in the top 2.

Some of the football QPR have played under Redknapp, has been mind numbingly boring, but that in no small part has been down to the squads available to him (the 1st lot seemed to be disjointed, unbalanced with a number of them only interested in collecting their pay each month), the 2nd, as stated above, were slow and often uninspiring, but experienced and effective.

I would rather judge Redknapp on what he can achieve next season, if he at least gets to assemble a squad of players that can defend and attack in a more enjoyable style of play.

Very good post by you sir. Agree with Geng as well, we need to start sorting the wages out when giving out new contracts.

[Geng]

The Mail article, and most of the people in this thread, are being far too results-based.

Had Keogh kicked the ball into row Z and Derby won in extra time, would you all still be saying the same? I know my opinion on the job HR did last season wasn't changed by one goal. Obviously it changes things moving forward, but if you think he did a great job you should have been prepared to think that even if we lost at the weekend. I think he did a poor job, and one last minute winner with our only shot on goal doesn't change that.