FFP expert on TS keys and gray today re QPR

[QPR71]

the guy was a professor specialising in football finance

he said at the moment the league FFP rules are the strictest in the world...beyond uefa's and prem rules....
they need to be revisited and changed.....confirmed there would be a 48 mill fine for qpr...but said this is
unlikely as qpr and others would definitely go to court and he was fairly certain the court would overrule
in favour of the clubs.

in short he was pretty certain that the rules as they stand will not be implemented

[HoopDoggyDogg]

I know there's all this talk about us, but ain't Man City making huge losses as well?

[QPR71]

the whole thing makes no sense...is in favour of the already big clubs...it promotes the opposite of fair competition....and is contrary to commercial law

players wages are the cause of the problem...a wage bubble......fifa and all organisations below them need to simultaneously impose an upper wage cap

[acricketer]

Obvious from the word go. A ludicrous set of criteria.

[HoopDoggyDogg]

Man City had a total loss of £150 million in the last 2 seasons, and wage bill is currently £223 million!!
They can't hit us and not them.

[QPR71]

he said Leicester have 30 mill that means a 20 mill fine for them I fink

where does the money from these fines go.......rolex watches for insiders
or millions of pitches for the grassroots

[QPR Richard]

FFP appears to have been designed to stop other clubs doing a Man City and breaking into the top, thereby spoiling the cushy little arrangement of the big clubs. It's one of the reasons the champions league was formed, to protect the big clubs and ensure there was a huge pot of money for them.

The only way to make it fair is to limit the expenditure of all clubs, ie no club in the prem can spend more than say £30m on transfer fees and no club can spend more than say £50m on wages and bonuses per season.

That would stop the likes of Chelski and Man City buying massively expensive players and stop the likes of Rooney earning £300k a week, while at the same time allowing owners of smaller clubs to invest in their team to bring them up to the same level as the big teams.

Hopefully a level playing field could be created and make football a more competitive sport.

[Since72]

They should run it like the suns dream team.... Spend up to 100mil and make sure there's no Chelsea players allowed in qpr's team

[SuperHoopNik]

FFP appears to have been designed to stop other clubs doing a Man City and breaking into the top, thereby spoiling the cushy little arrangement of the big clubs. It's one of the reasons the champions league was formed, to protect the big clubs and ensure there was a huge pot of money for them.

The only way to make it fair is to limit the expenditure of all clubs, ie no club in the prem can spend more than say £30m on transfer fees and no club can spend more than say £50m on wages and bonuses per season.

That would stop the likes of Chelski and Man City buying massively expensive players and stop the likes of Rooney earning £300k a week, while at the same time allowing owners of smaller clubs to invest in their team to bring them up to the same level as the big teams.

Hopefully a level playing field could be created and make football a more competitive sport.

But there are players with release clauses greater than that figure eg. Messi, ronaldo, bale. The transfer limit needs to be greater or equal to the highest valued player there, £250m for messi I think, just in case a club wants to buy the player or the player wants out. Therefore the transfer business in football is well and truly f@cked because of this and there's no going back, unless big players contracts are renegiotiated and their clauses is lowered, which is very unlikely.

[QPR Richard]

But there are players with release clauses greater than that figure eg. Messi, ronaldo, bale. The transfer limit needs to be greater or equal to the highest valued player there, £250m for messi I think, just in case a club wants to buy the player or the player wants out. Therefore the transfer business in football is well and truly f@cked because of this and there's no going back, unless big players contracts are renegiotiated and their clauses is lowered, which is very unlikely.

Will probably need to apply to new contracts. Players and agents have far too much power these days and it needs to end. Clauses like appearance money should be scrapped. That's what they're paid to do. Play effing football!

[gravesendhoop]

50 grand a week wage cap from now on would help. I doubt that would deter anyone from playing pro football. 50k a week is a massive wage but would certainly level the playing field.

[theblackmafia.]

It's all bollards. A wage cap is probably the only thing that can really be implemented as there are wage caps in normal business. Limiting a clubs spending, commercial income, expenditure is not up to the Football league or anyone else. You can't go to B&Q and tell them to stop investing in products or staff. You can't tell them to stop advertising etc. so what makes the Football league believe they can implement rules which impede on business decisions?

The only argument the Football league would have is if we want to participate in their competition then we abide by it's rules. Fair enough when it comes to non commercial/financial matters like 'football law', but when it involves money the Football league and any other organisation like FIFA etc. are ******ed!

[maverick69]

I know a couple of legal folk - and they reckon FFP could be argued to be extortion.

[West Acton]

Won't happen

[Olly]

Looking at the other side of it, does the FA etc have a responsibility to stop clubs going bust owing £m's to creditors and the taxman, but more importantly ensuring that innocent fans don't suffer where over indulgent owners destroy clubs? Supposing Sheik M walks away from Man C, and no-one buys it, are their supporters in serious trouble if the club goes bankrupt?