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    Firstly, i know my view on things is probably not the popular view on here. And thats cool, because this is a forum where opinions differ and debate is ok. This is how i see things, and i hope im not ridiculed for it.
    If you look at the season we had last season id say weve done very well to be where we are, without playing well at all this season (bar a handful of games). We could quite easily have done a Wolves, which doesnt bear thinking about.
    We all want to be at the top of the league where, on paper, our squad should be quite easily. But I think many on here underestimated how tough a league the championship is. Either that or they were arrogant enough to think we have a god given right to win every game because we were premier league last season.
    I love my club and im as p*ssed off with our lack of firepower and Harry's questionable tactics as anyone else. I just think its too late in the season to be making a managerial change, if we're gonna do it wait till the season ends. And if that means another season in the Championship then so be it. Actually, its probably better than getting d*cked week in week out in the Premier League.
    Believe it or not, if this rough patch we're going through right now had happened earlier in the season, say January, I wouldve been on the "Harry out" bandwagon. But there are 12 games left, and if a new manager came in now, I reckon he would need at least half of those to implement his ideas and way of playing. It would be a period of transition right at the business end of the season, which could possibly end our playoff chances. Right now we need stability until the end of the season, because I firmly believe we have a playoff place nailed on. I dont think we will go up via the playoffs, judging by our results against teams in the top 8 this season. But it would be something to build on for next season, like Leicester have this season.
    I also am not panicking about this debt we have. Im not a financial whizz or anything, but the way I see it (and I could be wide of the mark here so please correct me im wrong), the only external debt we have is a £15million bank loan. The rest of that debt was from the shareholders. On top of that, there is no guarantee this FFP will come in, with several clubs ready to take legal action against the football league to fight it. If this means I am burying my head in the sand, then I consider my head well and truly buried.
    Look, I would be gutted and extremely disappointed if we dont make the playoffs. But I stand by what I said earlier, that we have done well to be where we are after the disaster that was last season.
    Tony Fernandes is not going to sack Harry before the season ends, its just not going to happen. The best thing we can do is just get behind the lads for the rest of the season, because despite what many think, the fact is its not over yet. You may not agree with Harry, or indeed even like him, but lets get behind the boys on the pitch, they need us. Especially when we are involved in the playoffs. Our away support has been superb all season, lets increase the noise at home, starting saturday against yeovil.

    Anyway. Thats my two cents. Be gentle
    Top Scorers 2018/2019

    Nakhi Wells - 8
    Pawel Wszolek - 6
    Luke Freeman - 6
    Matt Smith - 6
    Ebere Eze - 4
    Joel Lynch - 3
    Tomer Hemed - 3
    Toni Leistner - 2
    Massimo Luongo- 2
    Angel Rangel - 2
    Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
    Geoff Cameron - 1
    Aramide Oteh - 1
    Jake Bidwell - 1
    Jordan Cousins - 1

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  • #2
    Good post mate . I just think people are generally upset with the total lack of imagination and application from both players and management . Get what your saying as not many clubs bounce back first time of asking and it's a very hard league . I'm just bitterly disappointed with them again but barring a few good seasons that's the way it's been most of my life so I shouldn't be surprised

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
      Firstly, i know my view on things is probably not the popular view on here. And thats cool, because this is a forum where opinions differ and debate is ok. This is how i see things, and i hope im not ridiculed for it.
      If you look at the season we had last season id say weve done very well to be where we are, without playing well at all this season (bar a handful of games). We could quite easily have done a Wolves, which doesnt bear thinking about.
      We all want to be at the top of the league where, on paper, our squad should be quite easily. But I think many on here underestimated how tough a league the championship is. Either that or they were arrogant enough to think we have a god given right to win every game because we were premier league last season.
      I love my club and im as p*ssed off with our lack of firepower and Harry's questionable tactics as anyone else. I just think its too late in the season to be making a managerial change, if we're gonna do it wait till the season ends. And if that means another season in the Championship then so be it. Actually, its probably better than getting d*cked week in week out in the Premier League.
      Believe it or not, if this rough patch we're going through right now had happened earlier in the season, say January, I wouldve been on the "Harry out" bandwagon. But there are 12 games left, and if a new manager came in now, I reckon he would need at least half of those to implement his ideas and way of playing. It would be a period of transition right at the business end of the season, which could possibly end our playoff chances. Right now we need stability until the end of the season, because I firmly believe we have a playoff place nailed on. I dont think we will go up via the playoffs, judging by our results against teams in the top 8 this season. But it would be something to build on for next season, like Leicester have this season.
      I also am not panicking about this debt we have. Im not a financial whizz or anything, but the way I see it (and I could be wide of the mark here so please correct me im wrong), the only external debt we have is a £15million bank loan. The rest of that debt was from the shareholders. On top of that, there is no guarantee this FFP will come in, with several clubs ready to take legal action against the football league to fight it. If this means I am burying my head in the sand, then I consider my head well and truly buried.
      Look, I would be gutted and extremely disappointed if we dont make the playoffs. But I stand by what I said earlier, that we have done well to be where we are after the disaster that was last season.
      Tony Fernandes is not going to sack Harry before the season ends, its just not going to happen. The best thing we can do is just get behind the lads for the rest of the season, because despite what many think, the fact is its not over yet. You may not agree with Harry, or indeed even like him, but lets get behind the boys on the pitch, they need us. Especially when we are involved in the playoffs. Our away support has been superb all season, lets increase the noise at home, starting saturday against yeovil.

      Anyway. Thats my two cents. Be gentle
      Sensible post Ginge and I agree with everything.

      IMO sacking HR now would do more harm than good. IF we're to bring a new manager in, to do so at this stage of the season is madness. Get him in in the summer to give him time to get players in/out and give the new faces time to gell for a fresh season.
      SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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      • #4
        Excellent post rusty roof

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        • #5
          Well said Ginge. Agree with every word.

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          • #6
            have to agree with ginger....its too late to change manager now and i still think we'll stutter into the playoffs(im not convinced,but hope,we would win it)....however the squad would once again need to be dismantled and rebuilt at massive cost for another tilt at premier league survival and thats all it would be!

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            • #7
              Playoffs are a total lottery, form pretty much goes out of the window. So I certainly wouldn't bet against us winning them.

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              • #8
                But I believe harry will walk away at the end of the season.
                Last edited by Yousef; 12-03-2014, 09:43 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Yousef View Post
                  But I believe Harry will walk away at the end of the season.
                  So do I mate, which is why it wouldnt make sense to sack him now and pay him millions.
                  Top Scorers 2018/2019

                  Nakhi Wells - 8
                  Pawel Wszolek - 6
                  Luke Freeman - 6
                  Matt Smith - 6
                  Ebere Eze - 4
                  Joel Lynch - 3
                  Tomer Hemed - 3
                  Toni Leistner - 2
                  Massimo Luongo- 2
                  Angel Rangel - 2
                  Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                  Geoff Cameron - 1
                  Aramide Oteh - 1
                  Jake Bidwell - 1
                  Jordan Cousins - 1

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                  • #10
                    One of the best posts i have seen on the subject from either the happy clappers/negative crowd on this site.

                    No digging anyone out just a passionate rallying cry from Ginge and some very good points

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                    • #11
                      HALLELUJAH! First sensible post i've read on here for ages. Well said. We need to build again, as you say i am very happy that we have not fdone a Wolves and we have a great spine of championship players in our team that we can build around next season:

                      Green
                      Simpson
                      Onuoha
                      Hill
                      Faurlin
                      Phillips
                      Austin

                      This is a great start. I deinately think Harry has to and will go in the summer and the new manager (Malky Mackay, Karl Robinson or Eddie Howe) should build a team/squad around these players. The future is not bleek, we have great fans (except some muppets on here), some good players and a great chairman. COME ON YOU R'S!!!!

                      Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                      Firstly, i know my view on things is probably not the popular view on here. And thats cool, because this is a forum where opinions differ and debate is ok. This is how i see things, and i hope im not ridiculed for it.
                      If you look at the season we had last season id say weve done very well to be where we are, without playing well at all this season (bar a handful of games). We could quite easily have done a Wolves, which doesnt bear thinking about.
                      We all want to be at the top of the league where, on paper, our squad should be quite easily. But I think many on here underestimated how tough a league the championship is. Either that or they were arrogant enough to think we have a god given right to win every game because we were premier league last season.
                      I love my club and im as p*ssed off with our lack of firepower and Harry's questionable tactics as anyone else. I just think its too late in the season to be making a managerial change, if we're gonna do it wait till the season ends. And if that means another season in the Championship then so be it. Actually, its probably better than getting d*cked week in week out in the Premier League.
                      Believe it or not, if this rough patch we're going through right now had happened earlier in the season, say January, I wouldve been on the "Harry out" bandwagon. But there are 12 games left, and if a new manager came in now, I reckon he would need at least half of those to implement his ideas and way of playing. It would be a period of transition right at the business end of the season, which could possibly end our playoff chances. Right now we need stability until the end of the season, because I firmly believe we have a playoff place nailed on. I dont think we will go up via the playoffs, judging by our results against teams in the top 8 this season. But it would be something to build on for next season, like Leicester have this season.
                      I also am not panicking about this debt we have. Im not a financial whizz or anything, but the way I see it (and I could be wide of the mark here so please correct me im wrong), the only external debt we have is a £15million bank loan. The rest of that debt was from the shareholders. On top of that, there is no guarantee this FFP will come in, with several clubs ready to take legal action against the football league to fight it. If this means I am burying my head in the sand, then I consider my head well and truly buried.
                      Look, I would be gutted and extremely disappointed if we dont make the playoffs. But I stand by what I said earlier, that we have done well to be where we are after the disaster that was last season.
                      Tony Fernandes is not going to sack Harry before the season ends, its just not going to happen. The best thing we can do is just get behind the lads for the rest of the season, because despite what many think, the fact is its not over yet. You may not agree with Harry, or indeed even like him, but lets get behind the boys on the pitch, they need us. Especially when we are involved in the playoffs. Our away support has been superb all season, lets increase the noise at home, starting saturday against yeovil.

                      Anyway. Thats my two cents. Be gentle

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                      • #12
                        Excellent post/thread rusty mate.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                          Firstly, i know my view on things is probably not the popular view on here. And thats cool, because this is a forum where opinions differ and debate is ok. This is how i see things, and i hope im not ridiculed for it.
                          If you look at the season we had last season id say weve done very well to be where we are, without playing well at all this season (bar a handful of games). We could quite easily have done a Wolves, which doesnt bear thinking about.
                          We all want to be at the top of the league where, on paper, our squad should be quite easily. But I think many on here underestimated how tough a league the championship is. Either that or they were arrogant enough to think we have a god given right to win every game because we were premier league last season.
                          I love my club and im as p*ssed off with our lack of firepower and Harry's questionable tactics as anyone else. I just think its too late in the season to be making a managerial change, if we're gonna do it wait till the season ends. And if that means another season in the Championship then so be it. Actually, its probably better than getting d*cked week in week out in the Premier League.
                          Believe it or not, if this rough patch we're going through right now had happened earlier in the season, say January, I wouldve been on the "Harry out" bandwagon. But there are 12 games left, and if a new manager came in now, I reckon he would need at least half of those to implement his ideas and way of playing. It would be a period of transition right at the business end of the season, which could possibly end our playoff chances. Right now we need stability until the end of the season, because I firmly believe we have a playoff place nailed on. I dont think we will go up via the playoffs, judging by our results against teams in the top 8 this season. But it would be something to build on for next season, like Leicester have this season.
                          I also am not panicking about this debt we have. Im not a financial whizz or anything, but the way I see it (and I could be wide of the mark here so please correct me im wrong), the only external debt we have is a £15million bank loan. The rest of that debt was from the shareholders. On top of that, there is no guarantee this FFP will come in, with several clubs ready to take legal action against the football league to fight it. If this means I am burying my head in the sand, then I consider my head well and truly buried.
                          Look, I would be gutted and extremely disappointed if we dont make the playoffs. But I stand by what I said earlier, that we have done well to be where we are after the disaster that was last season.
                          Tony Fernandes is not going to sack Harry before the season ends, its just not going to happen. The best thing we can do is just get behind the lads for the rest of the season, because despite what many think, the fact is its not over yet. You may not agree with Harry, or indeed even like him, but lets get behind the boys on the pitch, they need us. Especially when we are involved in the playoffs. Our away support has been superb all season, lets increase the noise at home, starting saturday against yeovil.

                          Anyway. Thats my two cents. Be gentle
                          Hi Ginge....got alot on this morning and am short on reading time.......couldn't summarise that 7 chapters into bite size chunks for me, could you?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Johnnykc View Post
                            Hi Ginge....got alot on this morning and am short on reading time.......couldn't summarise that 7 chapters into bite size chunks for me, could you?
                            alright maybe a bit overboard on the essay
                            Top Scorers 2018/2019

                            Nakhi Wells - 8
                            Pawel Wszolek - 6
                            Luke Freeman - 6
                            Matt Smith - 6
                            Ebere Eze - 4
                            Joel Lynch - 3
                            Tomer Hemed - 3
                            Toni Leistner - 2
                            Massimo Luongo- 2
                            Angel Rangel - 2
                            Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                            Geoff Cameron - 1
                            Aramide Oteh - 1
                            Jake Bidwell - 1
                            Jordan Cousins - 1

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                              alright maybe a bit overboard on the essay
                              I'm only messing with you.....and I agree with your post except for the 'doing a Wolves' bit..........As frustrating as our team is, there was always going to be too much talent to drop straight down another league.

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