Doyle injured?

[twranger]

Desperation mate.

Brought about by not doing the job correctly during close season and as usual, despite almost every fan knowing how urgent the situation was, wasting the entire month of January. Got a feeling that the January debacle, will prove to be a very costly mistake.

Harry targeted two top players in Jan, namely Ntep and Belfodil and probably many others that us mere mortals know nothing about, so why is that wasting the entire month of January? No ones fault that those two decided to go elsewhere or terms couldn't be reached, it wasn't through lack of trying.....these things happen in football and it is never that simplistic.....if only it was. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes, so a bit harsh assuming that no one was doing their job during the close season. The hard fact is we are not privy to everything that goes on.

[QPR71]

Personally think Maiga is the worst player I've seen since Ali Dia. AJ or Keane my choice - albeit both a touch pony.

id rather play you than maiga matty

[Nick]

Harry targeted two top players in Jan, namely Ntep and Belfodil and probably many others that us mere mortals know nothing about, so why is that wasting the entire month of January? No ones fault that those two decided to go elsewhere or terms couldn't be reached, it wasn't through lack of trying.....these things happen in football and it is never that simplistic.....if only it was. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes, so a bit harsh assuming that no one was doing their job during the close season. The hard fact is we are not privy to everything that goes on.

[brightonr]

Harry targeted two top players in Jan, namely Ntep and Belfodil and probably many others that us mere mortals know nothing about, so why is that wasting the entire month of January? No ones fault that those two decided to go elsewhere or terms couldn't be reached, it wasn't through lack of trying.....these things happen in football and it is never that simplistic.....if only it was. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes, so a bit harsh assuming that no one was doing their job during the close season. The hard fact is we are not privy to everything that goes on.

Quite simple TW.

Far too much time wasted haggling with these players. Either they want to come or they don't. Two things usually happen from past experience, (and last January's window). Either we get strung along and eventually miss out when these players decide to go elsewhere,(surely no need to give you a list), or they end up signing due to nobody else wanting them and performing as such.

Not sure Belfodil is a top player either, to be honest. I've heard Harry use that phrase about Zamora.

[westsussexranger]

Keane needs match practice and Harry knows this. He's playing two games a week at the mo, on the bench on saturday and for the EDS midweek. Harry obviously sees him as a good player just needs the minutes under his belt

[Hertford Hoop]

id rather play you than maiga matty

Big Sam must of laughed his head off when we signed him

[twranger]

Quite simple TW.

Far too much time wasted haggling with these players. Either they want to come or they don't. Two things usually happen from past experience, (and last January's window). Either we get strung along and eventually miss out when these players decide to go elsewhere,(surely no need to give you a list), or they end up signing due to nobody else wanting them and performing as such.

Not sure Belfodil is a top player either, to be honest. I've heard Harry use that phrase about Zamora.

This is my point though B, we are not privy to EXACTLY what goes on.....how do we know for sure that too much time is wasted haggling with players, how do we know we get strung along? You, me or any fan don't know this for sure. We can surmise these situations of course, but we are not in on these things and do not know the fine details of negotiations.
So, IMO, it is wrong to accuse the powers that be at QPR, to be wasting the entire month of January, unless of course you know more than the rest of us.

[RABB]

I heard that AJ is injured - if not, I would start with him ahead of the others

He ain't injured and has been fit for months . Just not in Harry's plans at all , iv been informed that if he can find another club the door is open for him. Shame to be fair as i don't think he has done a lot wrong .

[West Acton]

This is my point though B, we are not privy to EXACTLY what goes on.....how do we know for sure that too much time is wasted haggling with players, how do we know we get strung along? You, me or any fan don't know this for sure. We can surmise these situations of course, but we are not in on these things and do not know the fine details of negotiations.
So, IMO, it is wrong to accuse the powers that be at QPR, to be wasting the entire month of January, unless of course you know more than the rest of us.

We also had so called fans saying TF should just out and pay whatever Blackburn wanted for Rhodes to keep our season alive like money grows on trees some of these are the same people who were then criticising over the debt. Some said not getting Rhodes was a lack of ambition but like you said we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and assume they knew the financial figures which were going to be announced

[Lunar Jetman]

Shame to be fair as i don't think he has done a lot wrong .

2 goals for a striker in 22 appearances this season says otherwise.....

[twranger]

We also had so called fans saying TF should just out and pay whatever Blackburn wanted for Rhodes to keep our season alive like money grows on trees some of these are the same people who were then criticising over the debt. Some said not getting Rhodes was a lack of ambition but like you said we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and assume they knew the financial figures which were going to be announced

Exactly wests...good point, this as well. Broadly speaking of course, people do tend to be very vociferous about topics where they do not know all the facts. As the saying goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[RABB]

2 goals for a striker in 22 appearances this season says otherwise.....

I never said he was prolific . But had a few assists and work rate I thought was decent.

[brightonr]

This is my point though B, we are not privy to EXACTLY what goes on.....how do we know for sure that too much time is wasted haggling with players, how do we know we get strung along? You, me or any fan don't know this for sure. We can surmise these situations of course, but we are not in on these things and do not know the fine details of negotiations.
So, IMO, it is wrong to accuse the powers that be at QPR, to be wasting the entire month of January, unless of course you know more than the rest of us.

I have no claim to inside knowledge mate, none whatsoever. However, common sense is all that is required in order to realise the mistakes made.

If Harry wanted M'villa, Hooper, Parker, Belfodil, N'tep or anybody else, then a simple take it or leave it offer would suffice. If they aren't that fussed about playing for QPR or playing for Harry,(Can't really blame players for either stance), then we move on in a timely fashion and go and find someone who accepts the challenge and is grateful for it. Charlie Austin immediately springs to mind as a fine example. I note Hooper and Parker have hardly enhanced their world cup prospects playing for the mighty Norwich and Fulham. Suspect Norwich and Fulham are a bit underwhelmed at what they are getting for their money.

I know many will say, you included, that it's not as simple as that, but really, it is exactly that. All about perception and how difficult you want to make things out to be.

Slightly off topic, but to demonstrate the point, let us take Neil Warnock. By far and away the best and most successful manager we have had in many a long year, who got us promoted by getting the right players, picking in the main the right team and building team sprit amongst a group of players that worked hard for the cause. Didn't have to spend millions, didn't have to buy big names, just good honest players who had the hunger and desire to succeed.

Sadly, through no fault of his own, once he had achieved what we all wanted, he was shafted. Was given no funds but more importantly, no time to bring in reinforcements to keep on improving us at a steady rate. Oh how I wish he just persevered with the lads that got us up rather than make what I believe was the disastrous errors of judgement that led to the likes of Ferdinand, Young, SWP, Barton and others to come in on big money and offer no discernible value for it. We could have found ourselves just above the relegation zone by Christmas or even in it, but having not wasted millions on dross, would no doubt have been supported financially, just as Hughes was. Hardly surprising he was got rid of really, as who would want to risk more of the same poor judgement? These mistakes were repeated by Hughes with Bosingwa, M'bia, Granero, Park, Zamora and a whole host of others. Mistakes repeated again by Harry with the likes of Benayoun, Henry, Krancjar, O'Neil, Jenas, Hughes etc etc.

Is it any wonder that we are now facing the real prospect of missing out on automatic promotion, yet posting up huge losses that no football club should be allowed to get away with? Quite simple really, Hughes and Redknapp cannot build teams, they assemble squads. Expensive ones.

It may sound like I'm just another moaner to most people. I'm really not and want everyone at QPR to succeed, but I find it galling when all these people take money from our club and deliver what can only be regarded as abject failure. Redknapp could easily have kept us up with the squad available to him, but it was his negative tactics that were to blame in my opinion. He still kept saying we could do it, that he thought we would survive. All of a sudden it wasn't his fault as no manager could have kept those players in the premier league.

At the start of this season he was happy with what we had. We only needed another two at most in January. By the end of January he has signed another load of sh1t and, by the way it's not his fault we've fallen away, as anybody who "knows football" can tell us, he claims.

It's never his fault though, is it? Although it would be easier to stomach if he accepted at least some part of the blame. And what galls me more than anything are those who, despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary, defend him and the job he has done so far. His initial brief was to keep us up. He failed. His next step was to get us up. He looks like failing again. I really wouldn't mind if we had an average team playing for a young dynamic manager and they were all on average money. But I'm sorry, one out of three isn't anywhere near good enough.

Sorry about the amount of words, but I don't possess the vocabulary to sum up quite such an alarming sequence of mis-management in one paragraph.

Here's hoping that we build upon saturday's result tomorrow evening. And that good times are around the corner.

[Shania]

He ain't injured and has been fit for months . Just not in Harry's plans at all , iv been informed that if he can find another club the door is open for him. Shame to be fair as i don't think he has done a lot wrong .

Now that we have got a bit more creative midfield I find it quite strange that AJ seems to have vanished completly..

[QPRDave]

Better news on Doyle

Doyle not as bad as first thought

http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/boost-qpr-doyle-injury-concerns-ease?