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  • Flavio and The Potential Position of QPR In Coming Weeks

    First of all, I would like to nip this in the bud once and for all about a Mittal takeover. Its a no go and anyone who thinks they will wave the magic wand if Flavio leaves, will be in for a shock.

    I've seen stories in The Times today and on messageboards about giving the Mittals a "go at it". To be honest, they are more likely to leave than Flavio and it will be very hard to convince them to stay after the recent allegations, than suddenly to expect to take over the mantle. They have seen at first hand the fans responses when things don;t go well and to think they would want to be the main orchestratators of financing and running the club is way off the mark. When this venture was first sold to them, it was a positive thing and they could see the potential, but negative after negative story from price rises to the recent Flaviogate scandal, means they have taken more of a back seat in recent times. They would not want to be answering negative questions about the state of the club at this current time and the next 7-10 days will be harder to convince them to stay put, then to contrive a plan for a takeover. The latter just won;t happen. Flavio came in with the best intentions of making the place a success and The Mittals have seen at first hand, what happens when it goes wrong with fans and they don't gamble with business ventures in the same way Flavio would. No-one can take over a football club, demand or correctly predict success. What if, a year down the line we are in the same situation under new owners in the case of The Mittals, and they are getting booed and ridiculed in the press and global media, because results on the pitch are not going our way? They now know the risks involved and for that reason, they simply will not take-over whether we like it or not. The 20% stake is an indication of an interest only in the club and it would have been far easier to take full control before, 2 years down the line, it is simply not an attractive business proposition to take over a club mid-table in the championship and with the continual bad press it attracts. I like Amit alot, but its more likely to be a separate takeover than anyone currently at the club.

    In regards to Bernie Ecclestone, being the main figurehead at F1 will make it very difficult to stay put at QPR in any capacity, if Monday;s meeting in Paris punishes Renault and bans Flavio from F1 for good, it will be regarded as a conflict of interest surely if he stays involved with Flavio at QPR. He has done alot more for the club, then people give him credit for, but he is even less likely to takeover the whole club than The Mittals, with his life being Formula One.

    Where does that leave us and the club? I'm not altogether sure that Flavio is registered with the football league as Chairman, but lets for argument say he is. The football league would be hard pressed to sanction Flavio's involvement with the club, he has resigned from renualt and not been found guilty in a court of law. He might well be guilty, but the reality is even with the smallprint the Football League have, they will not be able to oust Flavio from his position within Queens Park Rangers football club.

    Flavio, no doubt will go abroad for a week or two and assess, where he goes from here. He is a fighter and not got where he is today, by not being ruthless and determined in business. You, don;t have to like him, he is not here to make friends but the ultimate goal from the outset was to make the club successful, its all going wrong at the moment but I feel it won;t stop him. Whether, he can keep all the sponsors and co owners happy is an altogether different proposition, this is what eventually could lead to a separate takeover.

    Whilst, many fans will ask for "our rangers back" the reality is that Flavio has probably ploughed more money into the club, then many have in recent years. That in my opinion, is the good thing that will come out of this all. Contrary to this club going to the wall, I think the future can only be positive for QPR, whatever happens in the coming weeks.

    End of the day, if Flavio does sell and move on, he will not sell it a lost and that bodes well for us. It will mean a big backer will take over, simply because Flavio has ploughed in millions, any potential backers will have the money, not like recent times when they would promise funds, to be found out in that reality it was all fabrication or came with strings attached. The World of Flavio does mean, that if he decides enough is enough and wants to walk, he won't sell it on the cheap and I cannot imagine the return of the money buckets.

    In my opinion whatever you think of Flavio and we could argue all day about what he has done, one thing for sure is that our current financial status and future would far less insecure if he hadn't taken over the club in the first place
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  • #2
    Good post Pete you make some good points
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    • #3
      Surely that depends on how conditional the level of sponsorship is on reaching the premier league. We have far far more debt now in terms of loans and we no longer have our name on the ground deeds so not entirely convinced by all that Pete.

      As for he will not sell at a loss? Who says? he may not have a choice...
      "Originally Posted by qblockpete
      QPR will finish at least in the Play offs
      Swansea will finish in bottom 6
      Middlesboro will finish champions"

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      • #4
        I very rarely agree with you on just abotu anything and i find you just about the most obnoxious arrogant t@sser on any of the messege boards.

        But you have got this spot on i think we need to support the club and support flav why do we need to look to the mittals yes it would be lovely but why are they going to do a better job than flav??

        You make points about the mittals being put off im not sure if you know this for a fact or you are just again making utter sh@t up to back up your point as you generally do on most things. (Why you do this i do not know???) If the club met with fans at a much higher level and acted upon what we would like to see then the atmosphere would change in an instant.

        Simple way of getting fans back onside.

        GP OUT
        AR OUT

        No need to lower ticket prices or anything else just those people out and i assure you crowds would go back up.

        Thats all flav or the mittals have to do.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the compliments.

          i'm not spouting ******** this time, though admittedly have made a good job of it in the past.
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          • #6
            Just so I can understand what would someone would have to do to be viewed by some as not suitable to run a football club. Examples of being banned from football for far lesser things include, Kenneybeing banned from football, even training for 9 months for taking a Vick's inhaler, Muttu banned 2 years for snorting cocaine, Cantona banned for nine months for kicking a fan, Di-Canio 3 months for pushing a ref, Ferdinand for 6 months for not taking a test etc, etc. It just goes to show how ****eduptheworldweliveinis.

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            • #7
              I'm not saying you're wrong.

              But you seem to be dressing up your predictions, feelings and opinions (which you are fully entitled to, etc..) as fact.

              If Mittal or Bhatia, or Mallya have actually told you that they would not be interested in the last few days... then fair enough. I doubt that.

              If they haven't, then that was a valid post, but basically an educated guess that others on here might take as the final word. I don't.

              I'd say this whole situation is up in the air, and the names you mention.. as well as The Football League, and Flavio himself, are just waiting to see what will actually happen on monday, before making any final decisions about what happens next.

              Everyone has been guilty of trying to second guess what will happen after monday, myself included.
              I suspect you just have too.


              Only time will tell.

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              • #8
                I just hope and pray that magilton,gorman and the players are strong enough to ignore this circus and concentrate on football.We have games coming up against Cardiff,Chelsea and Newcastle which will be difficult enough without any more distractions.

                The ownership of the club is out of the hands of the manager,the players and the fans.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rblockells View Post
                  I just hope and pray that magilton,gorman and the players are strong enough to ignore this circus and concentrate on football.We have games coming up against Cardiff,Chelsea and Newcastle which will be difficult enough without any more distractions.

                  The ownership of the club is out of the hands of the manager,the players and the fans.
                  And if he is found guilty... the owner.

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                  • #10
                    Pete, who is in control opf your strings atm then?

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                    • #11
                      In reality we the fans, look on the greener side of the grass.

                      The Mittals have seen at close hand what happens if we lose 1 game, or don;t get a certain player. They simply don't need the potential aggreivation
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                      • #12
                        Essexhoop, you can read it or dimiss it.

                        thats your choice, no-one is pulling my strings, just like others who speak opposite to me, are being pulled either.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                          In reality we the fans, look on the greener side of the grass.

                          The Mittals have seen at close hand what happens if we lose 1 game, or don;t get a certain player. They simply don't need the potential aggreivation
                          They also know how much interference there is and they might just think to themselves, if we get the right man in and let him do what he does best, this place could be rocking like it was when we first arrived.

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                          • #14
                            Have you not been asked to try and spread a message then?

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                            • #15
                              Sorry but i find your intermate knowledge of mittals future plans relating to this club rather hard to believe, or are you just guessing.
                              They seek him here.................

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