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  • #31
    Originally posted by lymehoop View Post
    Huddelstone when on song is a joy to behold and one of the best midfielders in the country. Hope he makes the England squad for Brazil, ideal for the sweltering heat down there
    I agree but unfortunately with Roy in charge we will probably see an out of form cleverley ahead of him

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    • #32
      Norths, is he ever in form, a lot of average players at Utd. Think old Fergie knew it was time to quit
      I must away now, I can no longer tarry
      This morning's tempest I have to cross
      I must be guided without a stumble
      Into the arms I love the most

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      • #33
        Originally posted by lymehoop View Post
        Norths, is he ever in form, a lot of average players at Utd. Think old Fergie knew it was time to quit
        Quite agree Lymes, seems to be a case of the Kings New Clothes, (you must remember that!) if you play for Man Utd.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NortholtRanger View Post
          I agree but unfortunately with Roy in charge we will probably see an out of form cleverley ahead of him
          You could be right.

          England boss Roy Hodgson criticises an online petition calling for Tom Cleverley to be banned from World Cup selection.

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          • #35
            Not saying I would give him a new deal but in my view him and Barton are the best to CM pairing we have

            He takes some stick but watch him closely next time he gets on the ball and carries the balls forward and actually tries to play positive forward passes. Yes sometimes the passes don't come off but that the difference between someone like him and Carroll. Carroll would rather play the easy ball that gets us no where whereas Jenas, possibly because he is more experienced, tries the forward pass which could make a difference.

            Hes not a world beater but he is a better player then some are given him credit for and him and Barton in the middle in my view will be vital until the end of the season

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            • #36
              Originally posted by West Acton View Post
              Not saying I would give him a new deal but in my view him and Barton are the best to CM pairing we have

              He takes some stick but watch him closely next time he gets on the ball and carries the balls forward and actually tries to play positive forward passes. Yes sometimes the passes don't come off but that the difference between someone like him and Carroll. Carroll would rather play the easy ball that gets us no where whereas Jenas, possibly because he is more experienced, tries the forward pass which could make a difference.

              Hes not a world beater but he is a better player then some are given him credit for and him and Barton in the middle in my view will be vital until the end of the season

              no way would i give him a contract. he is clearly putting the effort in now because his contract is almost up.

              for the past season and a half he has been the ghost. fark him off at the end of the season i thinks.
              nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                no way would i give him a contract. he is clearly putting the effort in now because his contract is almost up.

                for the past season and a half he has been the ghost. fark him off at the end of the season i thinks.
                With all the debt talk, we will have to cut our cloth accordingly. Apart from Dunne, there won't be too many players offered new contracts imo.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jogo View Post
                  With all the debt talk, we will have to cut our cloth accordingly. Apart from Dunne, there won't be too many players offered new contracts imo.
                  Would argue some will get offered new contracts but it will be on new terms so question is will they accept it if offered on drastically reduced wages more akin to what there actually worth paying now

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                    Would argue some will get offered new contracts but it will be on new terms so question is will they accept it if offered on drastically reduced wages more akin to what there actually worth paying now
                    Doubt it. They're all in the twilight of their careers, they will go where the money is for one last pay day. I wouldn't be sorry to see most of them go, AJ, Bobby etc.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                      no way would i give him a contract. he is clearly putting the effort in now because his contract is almost up.

                      for the past season and a half he has been the ghost. fark him off at the end of the season i thinks.
                      Exactly this.

                      When was the last time he had a MOTM game? Come to think of it just a good game?

                      As soon as that contracts signed he'll just go back to being a ghost.
                      SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Nick View Post
                        Come to think of it just a good game?
                        Where you there yesterday Nick?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jogo View Post
                          Doubt it. They're all in the twilight of their careers, they will go where the money is for one last pay day. I wouldn't be sorry to see most of them go, AJ, Bobby etc.
                          Most of those we have that are out of contract stand no chance of landing similar deals with other teams. Who in their right mind is gonna pay , say for example, Zamora 50-60k a week.

                          There are one or two i hope the club try to retain on reduced terms but no more beyond that.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                            Not saying I would give him a new deal but in my view him and Barton are the best to CM pairing we have

                            He takes some stick but watch him closely next time he gets on the ball and carries the balls forward and actually tries to play positive forward passes. Yes sometimes the passes don't come off but that the difference between someone like him and Carroll. Carroll would rather play the easy ball that gets us no where whereas Jenas, possibly because he is more experienced, tries the forward pass which could make a difference.

                            Hes not a world beater but he is a better player then some are given him credit for and him and Barton in the middle in my view will be vital until the end of the season
                            Agree. Have to eat some humble pie as I've slated him in the past but I think he's played really well recently, had a great game yesterday & I thnik he brings more to the table than Carroll & Henry.
                            You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                              Agree. Have to eat some humble pie as I've slated him in the past but I think he's played really well recently, had a great game yesterday & I thnik he brings more to the table than Carroll & Henry.
                              That's as I see it Matty hence why from now until the end of the season him and Barton would be my middle two. Actually thought him Barton and Ravel worked fantastically well together between the three of them they played in triangles almost moving around the pitch in a threesome

                              I think there is a place for Henry depending on the game or the state of the game (Carroll I would not let near the 1st team unless were really struggling with injuries)

                              As said previous Jenas misses some passes as he did against Leeds but that's because he's trying to play a positive pass behind or to open the opposition up. We have had rows and rows on here about passing for the sake of passing and going nowhere, sideways and backwards where as Jenas picks his head up and tries to play it forwards and people then knock him for giving it away. When it comes off like yesterday, where he was my MOM, its great; when the passes come short like Leeds hes considered s hit truth is somewhere in the middle

                              He also gets in the box from the middle and scored yesterday (I thought the offside looked harsh) and if you take his name out the equation he actually does what we have been crying out for 1) gets on ball and carries it forward 2) passes forwards 3) gets in the box and finally 4) does put tackles in

                              I know many will disagree with the above. He needs to find a level of consistency

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                                That's as I see it Matty hence why from now until the end of the season him and Barton would be my middle two. Actually thought him Barton and Ravel worked fantastically well together between the three of them they played in triangles almost moving around the pitch in a threesome

                                I think there is a place for Henry depending on the game or the state of the game (Carroll I would not let near the 1st team unless were really struggling with injuries)

                                As said previous Jenas misses some passes as he did against Leeds but that's because he's trying to play a positive pass behind or to open the opposition up. We have had rows and rows on here about passing for the sake of passing and going nowhere, sideways and backwards where as Jenas picks his head up and tries to play it forwards and people then knock him for giving it away. When it comes off like yesterday, where he was my MOM, its great; when the passes come short like Leeds hes considered s hit truth is somewhere in the middle

                                He also gets in the box from the middle and scored yesterday (I thought the offside looked harsh) and if you take his name out the equation he actually does what we have been crying out for 1) gets on ball and carries it forward 2) passes forwards 3) gets in the box and finally 4) does put tackles in

                                I know many will disagree with the above. He needs to find a level of consistency
                                Bang on the money mate. Was saying to me old man how I like the way he pushes into their box and is on hand for any rebounds or parrying saves from their keeper. Don't get me wrong he'snot our saviour and isn't the best player in the world, but he's certainly doing a good job in there and exactly as you say, that middle 3 worked fantastically well.

                                Really looking forward to Brighton now after that performance.
                                You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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