my thoughts on our predicament ( for what they're worth)

[gravesendhoop]

Its seems the one glaring difference between us and Leicester/burnley is the passion and desire of they're players to get promoted. They want it soo much you can actually see it during games.

a quote that sticks from warnocks early days was him saying that a team cannot rely on loans to win this league. He addressed this accordingly and signed a few hungry players, many of whom were playing at the highest level theyd ever played. Similar to leicester and burnleys squads.

As good as bae krankjar and carrol may be its all to painful to realise that we mean little or nothing to them. Bae just constantly tweets about spurs regardless of our results and Ive yet to see carroll or niko sprinting during a game. Is the commitment of the current squad that dissimilar To last years?

our best players ie charlie phillips and faurlin have never had prolonged periods at bigger clubs or higher levels
And its no coincidance they've outperformed most.

I still think we have a decent chance of a top two finish but if it comes down to effort passion and desire were looking at a playoff lottery against teams full of players playing the biggest games of theyre careers.

[lymehoop]

I agree with that, think we need something fresh and inventive into the team. Morrison definately and give our youngsters a run out too

[Fordy]

Robbie Savage was talking on talksport after the game yesterday saying the exact same thing. Derby looked like men possessed yesterday fighting for every ball. Do these players want it enough? With so many loans and contracts running out in the summer, do they really care?

[West Acton]

I think what you see from both those sides is that they are prepared to take risks to win a game hence the amount of goals they score

We however want to play it safe and if we can win it one nil were more then happy to do that. Problem is if you don't get the one and the opposition do you get nothing.

It was great when we were winning one nil week in week out earlier in the season but as many on here suggested when we start conceding the one nils turn to one ones or worse still one nil defeats like last night

I think the two that we conceded against Millwall were for me the changing point in our season as we had been water tight until that point then gave them two sloppy goals and since then we have looked on occasions rocky at the back and nerves have set in

[qprted]

i think harry needs a new coach

i think harry needs a new coach maybe gerry francis because harry is getting very old and we need someone who can be part of the club and could continue when harry retires

i cant imagine joe jordan being a manager

[gravesendhoop]

Not so sure about morrisson. If he cant knuckle down and sort his head out playing in the prem for a big club like west ham what makes u think he'd be bothered about little old qpr when on loan? Theyre are so many players on our books that have little or no pride in wearing the hoops like niko carroll maiga mbia zamora swp hoilett benayoun granero park bae the list goes on. Cant see morrisson being any different.

[rodman]

I agree with that, think we need something fresh and inventive into the team. Morrison definately and give our youngsters a run out too

Not gonna happen under Redknapp, other teams youngsters - yes , but not our own

[Rebel R's]

Can harry motivate this team?

[gravesendhoop]

The bottom line is that weve tried to loan our way out of this league with the intention of spending big if we got promoted. Lessons learned?
Im not so sure.....

Anyway ive stood by far worse qpr teams than this and after being knocked out of the cup by vauxhall motors, passing buckets around to signplayers and nearly becoming QPR DONS!!!, third in the champ seems like a breeze. Gotta keep reminding ourselves of that!

[Kevin Mcleod]

its alright all the so called fans on here coating off our players and performance, but the hard facts are that we had 70% of the possession and schteve said his players were so farked from keeping us out that they could hardly summon the energy to even smile in the dressing room after. That doesnt happen if our players dont care.

[gravesendhoop]

So for havin an opinion differing to yours u label us "so called fans"

is it that wrong of us to question players commitment to the cause after lacklustre performances or should we idolise all players regardless?

[Kevin Mcleod]

So for havin an opinion differing to yours u label us "so called fans"

is it that wrong of us to question players commitment to the cause after lacklustre performances or should we idolise all players regardless?

Wasnt saying it about you or this thread, was saying it in general about all the moans when we are sitting third, joint second on points and lost three of our best players. Its absolute madness and infuriating, and we ran derby ragged yesterday but were just a bit shite. No need to question commitment imho.

[Factamondo]

So for havin an opinion differing to yours u label us "so called fans"

is it that wrong of us to question players commitment to the cause after lacklustre performances or should we idolise all players regardless?

[gravesendhoop]

Wasnt saying it about you or this thread, was saying it in general about all the moans when we are sitting third, joint second on points and lost three of our best players. Its absolute madness and inrepresenting and we ran derby ragged yesterday but were just a bit shite. No need to question commitment imho.

I think players commitment has been brought up since the likes of boswinga were at our club. Seeing his smiling monobrow face seconds after relagation hurt many of us. It was horrible to think that maybe just maybe the players representing our beloved hoops cared so little about a club we feel they should be honored to represent.

since then and with additions like bae. Its easy to understand why some get so upset. Being crap we can handle and tolerate so long as we are all pulling in the same direction and players and fans alike are hurting after a defeat.

When however, like me, qprs result can literally affect your whole week through an unexplainable love for the club, and you read a tweet from a senior player cheering on another team its hard not to feel short changed.

[Bill]

I think players commitment has been brought up since the likes of boswinga were at our club. Seeing his smiling monobrow face seconds after relagation hurt many of us. It was horrible to think that maybe just maybe the players representing our beloved hoops cared so little about a club we feel they should be honored to represent.

since then and with additions like bae. Its easy to understand why some get so upset. Being crap we can handle and tolerate so long as we are all pulling in the same direction and players and fans alike are hurting after a defeat.

When however, like me, qprs result can literally affect your whole week through an unexplainable love for the club, and you read a tweet from a senior player cheering on another team its hard not to feel short changed.

I question commitment especially Toilet Krancjar AND Carroll all average at best Toilet cant be botherd, Krancjar to slow to old not interested,Carroll to lightweight in this division.