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    Finally think fans and the club will wake up to our true position. So many have been saying "we are second, the table doesn't lie" etc but it now must be obvious to all but the most blinkered that the table is bound to get a whole lot more truthful over the next couple of months.

    I'm not having a go at Tony because he probably feels he has chucked enough money at clapped out ex Premier players looking for the inevitable last pay-day, jogging through the motions of mediocrity. But the moment Charlie Austin was ruled out for the season and we didn't buy a decent striker - despite knowing we were in desperate need of another good forward even WITH Charlie - was the moment it was pretty obvious that we weren't going up. With Charlie and before the injuries we were robbing wins - now the results are starting to reflect our performances.

    Was Doyle even playing? It was hard to tell. And in fairness to him, for all the pleasant tippy tappy passing we scarcely made one really threatening pass into the box all evening. Carroll is as effective as a convector heater in the Sahara, Barton can be good at this level but spent the whole match niggling and moaning, Clint looks well over the Hill, and as for O'Neil, why would you ever start with this player unless you were in League One?

    For the first time in quite a few years I can honestly say that there isn't one player we have out there who I have any great fondness for (except for past deeds in the case of Clint). None really look that interested and as such its hard for fans to get that interested either. I've never been one of those fans to call for a manager's head but I just wonder if Tony isn't thinking quietly to himself that he will basically have to start again in the close season - try as best he can to off-load the aged time-wasters and re-build a team with young, hungry players under a progressive manager who thinks long term. Instead we have gone for quick fix heaped upon quick fix and sadly the team and the tactic is completely broke.

    I am not saying any of this in a "I told you so" way - I admire the loyalty of those blind optimists who trudged up to Derby tonight. For me though I now know I can stop wasting so much time on Rangers this season and spend my time on more rewarding pursuits. I still retain a fair bit of faith in Tony - the Warren Farm development shows he wants to go about things the right way - and it will be very interesting to see how he plays it this summer.
    Last edited by stainrodisalegend; 11-02-2014, 01:06 AM.

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    Tony made a statement of intent by not buying rhodes to replace austin, and that statement was he isnt bothered if we dont go up.

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    • #3
      absolutely... we lost playing away to the team in fourth place.

      we'll be lucky to avoid relegation - zero chance of automatics, be extraordinarily lucky to make play-offs.

      every team in this division is better than us in some way or other etc

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      • #4
        Originally posted by klonk View Post
        absolutely... we lost playing away to the team in fourth place.

        we'll be lucky to avoid relegation - zero chance of automatics, be extraordinarily lucky to make play-offs.

        every team in this division is better than us in some way or other etc
        yadder, yadder, everything's rosy, you just keep telling yourself that...

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        • #5
          Some people are blind. Do they understand the game? I think not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
            yadder, yadder, everything's rosy, you just keep telling yourself that...
            no everything's not rosy. we lost our 5th game of the season but i was never one of the man utd-style fans that thought that promotion was a given and that we'd "rip the division a new one". back in august, i thought we'd have lost more than 5 games by now.

            we lost tonight. we're still in a decent position for automatic promotion. i'd prefer that we won, but most teams in this league would kill to be in our position now.

            i remember when fans of other teams used to appreciate us... now we seem like a bunch of spoilt brats that whine away the second we drop points. get behind the team.

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            • #7
              Some of the blame must go Tony's way in that there was never a 'let's rebuild properly statement'. He's taken the quick fix gamble as you said which some wanted, and some not. Who's decision this was, we may never know.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by klonk View Post
                no everything's not rosy. we lost our 5th game of the season but i was never one of the man utd-style fans that thought that promotion was a given and that we'd "rip the division a new one". back in august, i thought we'd have lost more than 5 games by now.

                we lost tonight. we're still in a decent position for automatic promotion. i'd prefer that we won, but most teams in this league would kill to be in our position now.

                i remember when fans of other teams used to appreciate us... now we seem like a bunch of spoilt brats that whine away the second we drop points. get behind the team.
                You obviously didn't read my original post properly. Not whining, not spoilt, specifically said I don't blame the owners. Of course all but two teams would swap our points total with theirs, but would Forest or Derby swap their current starting 11s for ours? I'm not so sure. But if you think from our trajectory following the injury to Charlie that we are still on course for promotion, well, all I can say is good luck with that!
                Last edited by stainrodisalegend; 11-02-2014, 01:29 AM.

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                • #9
                  We'll be in the top 6 come May as there are a number of key games between the top 6 that could go in our favour but I wouldn't bet we could make it out of the play-offs.

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                  • #10
                    Just a case of pigeons coming home to roost. Most people knew we were in a totally false position, some of us have been pointing out the obvious. Some of the players we've brought in......

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                    • #11
                      Maybe a super prem loan forward or two will turn up.
                      Last edited by Olly; 11-02-2014, 01:44 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I am still happy that we are not getting relegated again this season as I feared we would.
                        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                        but take a look at my photo blog:

                        http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                        How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                        http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                          Tony made a statement of intent by not buying rhodes to replace austin, and that statement was he isnt bothered if we dont go up.
                          Why should Tony have to spend millions every window? He backed Harry by buying him one of the best strikers in the league and Matty Phillips, and allowed him to bring in the likes of Kranjcar and BAE in on what I imagine is big wages; he has no obligation to spend any money at all!

                          Some of our fans have changed a lot in the last few years. Be grateful mate, we could be like Leeds.

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                          • #14
                            I think that was the fear of a lot of us. If we had started off in mid table that would have kept most on here happy. The fact that we got off to a better start led us all to hope we would have a chance of getting back up. The truth is that even on paper this team is not good enough.Even paper teams have to be in the present not the past and most of our big names are from the past.Add to that the future players like Hoilett,Traore, Onuha and the like who are not premiership players the press in their anti QPR stance have labelled the players and the team in general better than they are. We have very few exceptional players Austin was having a good season and Phillips started to show what a good player he could be and unfortunately to coin a phrase the wheels have come off .The injury to Simpson is also a blw because of his ability to get forward but the fact that even with these we have not beaten one of the top teams even Derby were mid table when we beat them.
                            No one pulls my strings 😉

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kenthoop View Post
                              Why should Tony have to spend millions every window? He backed Harry by buying him one of the best strikers in the league and Matty Phillips, and allowed him to bring in the likes of Kranjcar and BAE in on what I imagine is big wages; he has no obligation to spend any money at all!

                              Some of our fans have changed a lot in the last few years. Be grateful mate, we could be like Leeds.
                              One of the best strikers in the division got injured and is out all season.
                              Tony doesnt have to spend, and he didnt. And we will be in the championship next season. Its that obvious.

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