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  • #31
    Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
    Interesting comment by the OP about the thousands of empty seats yesterday. We weren't far short of being 90% full according to the official attendance for a game that was early kick off on TV.

    Then, watching the football league show, there were thousands of empty seats at Birmingham v Derby, and Sheff Wed v Barnsley for example. How is that explained?

    I think it's more to do with the apathy of fans and their teams playing in a lower league.

    Edit: by the way, Rotherham have doubled their attendance in 18 months since moving to their new stadium. If they can do it building a new stadium on some northern industrial wasteland, surely we can in what Boris Johnson had called London's answer to Manhattan.
    Could not agree more, Saturday TV game and large crowd, club shop was heaving. Give people a stadium with better facilities the club will attract more. As for mixing money spent on future stadium and players transfers, suggest people think of the constraints that fair play rules bring. The future long ters success of the club is not in LR, it has had a great history, now is the time with TF to build for the future history of success.
    Populus fui meus nomen , tamen meus nomen est non meus nomen

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    • #32
      went to both games this week and there were plenty of people who were there Saturday that did'nt go Tuesday, likewise a few who went Tuesday that did'nt bother Saturday. ST holders who hand their tickets to friends and family. Our support is out there, give them a team and a stadium and 1000's more will come
      I must away now, I can no longer tarry
      This morning's tempest I have to cross
      I must be guided without a stumble
      Into the arms I love the most

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      • #33
        I know plenty who do not bother because they can only buy shi**y seats and a shi**y view on the day as they can only decide late if they are able to come.

        I almost gave up when i started because of the same problem and many a times came to the ground and did not get a ticket.

        I am talking 70s.

        I sit at upper Loft an cannot sit with my legs straight an have to force my knees apart and annoy the person in the next seat.

        \when i have brought friends they do not want to repeat that experiance again and i do not blame then.

        I also happen to think people will be surprised by how many we can attract.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
          We've done this before. Catchment area of NW London is 1.8m. What is the catchment area of Southampton?
          this new catchment area you bang on about ,we are supposedly moving 500 yards up Scrubbs Lane ,where are they now
          Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vespa View Post
            You`re always welcome Dave ,we think your fine and dandy
            Hold up Vesp's you do know he's Welsh don't ya ?

            Originally posted by superhoop67 View Post
            this new catchment area you bang on about ,we are supposedly moving 500 yards up Scrubbs Lane ,where are they now
            "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
            For us that would mean around 29k."


            QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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            • #36
              [QUOTE=NW_Hoopz;1212466]Hold up Vesp's you do know he's Welsh don't ya ?


              ...half!

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              • #37
                [QUOTE=QPRDave;1212469]
                Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View Post
                Hold up Vesp's you do know he's Welsh don't ya ?


                ...half!
                "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
                For us that would mean around 29k."


                QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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                • #38
                  ****** jock!!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                    It'll work in London. It wouldn't work in a bleak northern outpost!

                    And anyways, Southampton doubled their capacity and they're not doing too bad.
                    Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                    Interesting comment by the OP about the thousands of empty seats yesterday. We weren't far short of being 90% full according to the official attendance for a game that was early kick off on TV. Dont they count the ST Holders as being present whether they actually turn up or not ?

                    Then, watching the football league show, there were thousands of empty seats at Birmingham v Derby, and Sheff Wed v Barnsley for example. How is that explained?

                    I think it's more to do with the apathy of fans and their teams playing in a lower league.

                    Edit: by the way, Rotherham have doubled their attendance in 18 months since moving to their new stadium. If they can do it building a new stadium on some northern industrial wasteland, surely we can in what Boris Johnson had called London's answer to Manhattan.
                    As you posted in the last 'debate' Richard your projections for the increased attendances came in at 30k which would also be roughly double our attendances now, so what is the point of the 40k music arena ? No benefit at all to our match day experience
                    "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
                    For us that would mean around 29k."


                    QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Factamondo View Post
                      firstly the thousands of empty seats for the most important home game ,so far, of the season finally lays to rest this mockery of a notion we need '40000' seat new stadiums......queens park rangers fc would/can never sell out grounds of this size......ive loved going to loftus rd since the age of five in 1970 but the atmosphere(or lack of it now) bar a few short rendidtions of nico nico,charlie,charlie is akin to the library at the emirates....on the field we continue to flatter to deceive at the top of an undoubted very low quality division.....burnley are basically a team with two good strikers and not much else but looked like scoring every time they got in our box(which basically they did)....i admire the clints/dunnes of this world but they would get raped week in week out if we went up.....look at burnleys goals and if im not mistake rob green shouldve got nearer one and three??....the boy hoilett really has to be one of the most over rated signings ever.....is he that 'better' than jamie mackie??....i know he set up maiga's goal but for me big ned went past their left hand side more??.......by the way i thought ned was fantastic yesterday.....nico and joey in the central midfield are ok but too slow by a long way to keep up with counter attacks without giving away fouls to mask their lack of speed....we really are missing fraulin in this dept....now for the new boys....doyle scored ,which is all we can ask, but not really much else if im honest....the boy maiga actually looks a unit and in his short cameo looked better than i thought he was.....at least he looks like he wants to have a pop at goal....
                      For me,the most disappointing signing over the past couple of seasons has got to be Hoilett.When he receives the ball on the halfway line,he persists in taking the ball right up to the opponents goal line instead of crossing the ball a lot sooner,and invariably gets closed down by two or even three defenders who prevent or block his attempted crosses.I know he laid on our third goal with a rare piece of tenacity on his part,but this is the exception rather than the rule as he is very predictable.Surely Harry must see this.Added to this is the fact that Hoilett is injury prone.I'd prefer Mackie,but better still,Gradel or the like.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                        ****** jock!!
                        Well the good news for me is on the 15th of March I'll be in Loftus Rd watching the Yeovil game so I won't have to endure watching the Sheep worriers taking the Phish & us get the wooden spoon
                        "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
                        For us that would mean around 29k."


                        QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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                        • #42
                          Did someone on here compare faurlin to nico???mind boggles.
                          For us to fill 30k we would have to w hore ourselves out to the degree that i would'nt reckonise us anymore...happy with my team as it is.
                          PRIDE OF LONDON.

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                          • #43
                            empty seats i have 3 season tickets but the other 2 didnt come i asked around and no QPR fans wanted them said they'd watch it on tv in the warm. plus the bloke next to me has 2 ST's and only comes to a third of the home games every season . we sit neat half way line so it does look bad on tv . i'd like us to build a new stadium with a 25k capacity with a view to build up if needed like the mk dons stadium

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                            • #44
                              If we establish ourselves as a premiership team there's no reason to think we couldn't pull 25k most weeks, sometimes more. Fulham manage it but they are on the slide so some of their plastic fans will head in our direction. We will also sell more away tickets for quite a few games, especially Derbys.
                              We had 18k against Plymouth a few years ago in league one so why wouldn't we.
                              A 30k stadium wouldn't be too ambitious, trouble is its not just going to be used for football so the owners would be looking to maximise revenue on non football events meaning we might end up with a stadium bigger than we really need
                              "He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View Post
                                Well the good news for me is on the 15th of March I'll be in Loftus Rd watching the Yeovil game so I won't have to endure watching the Sheep worriers taking the Phish & us get the wooden spoon
                                ...oval balls boyo...tis a welsh thing!

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