Leicester could be in trouble...

[maverick69]

Well, as it stands people have had a long time to challenge it and they haven't. So I would rather my club did what it needed to do to meet what currently is happening, and not run up debts banking on a court over turning it. If they do, then you deal with that as and when it happens.

Pearson has done a great job getting rid of the high earners and getting in better quality for less money. Certainly not an easy task and we will be on course for running self sufficient by the end of next season.

Because no one has faced sanctions yet.

[bakes8]

Yep. It's fundamentally flawed on many levels - let alone potentially illegal in EU law.

Martin Samuel said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Completely un-implementable and unlawful from the FA.

If Leicester go up and keep this squad in the Prem they will challenge Derby's all time low points record next season.

[Cityblue]

Because no one has faced sanctions yet.

Well good luck with that one if you guys decide to put it to the test.

[Cityblue]

Martin Samuel said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Completely un-implementable and unlawful from the FA.

If Leicester go up and keep this squad in the Prem they will challenge Derby's all time low points record next season.

Why would we keep just this squad?

[maverick69]

Well good luck with that one if you guys decide to put it to the test.

They will do assuming we face sanctions.

Fundamentally it's a communist principle in a capitalist society - and UEFA are there to set sporting regulations, not financial ones.

Anyways. Even if you don't want to challenge it - there's plenty of ways around it if you have rich owners. Just like Man City have recently shown:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/deloitte-football-money-league-report-manchester-city-ffp-hopes-lifted-by-revenue-hike--but-its-not-good-news-for-manchester-united-9078607.html

[bakes8]

Why would we keep just this squad?

?? What's the plan then? Go up with this squad and then buy a whole new squad u deem good enough for the Prem?

Been there, done that, good luck to you guys if thats what u think will work.

[West Acton]

Hi West Acton, whilst you are absolutely correct about last year, our form was so up and down all season, good run followed bad run quite often. This year though we had been steady all year with only the odd minor blip.

Last season half our team was playing it's first full season in this league (lots of young players) and we lacked old heads to help them out. This year we have added lots of old heads to the squad, and the young lads are much wiser after last season.

We have added some steel to the nice football we could play last year, and whilst nothing is ever certain and I'm sure we will hit a bad patch, I don't think it would be on the same scale as last year.

So, I certainly would bank on another collapse.

Decent response and im not saying you will collapse but you do have a history of choking at the business end of the season. You have been dominant this season and fair play to you guys but a couple of quick defeats could be the making or breaking of you (or us to that effect) as you either get back on the bike and keep going in which case confidence continues to grow or another defeat comes along and before you know it you back amongst the pack and the pressure is on with the memories of what happened last few seasons

You watch your side week in week out so are a better judge as to if they are mentally stronger then previous seasons but I only raise the above as some of your fellow fans have come on saying mind the gap etc etc but have conveniently forgot how you were in an equally strong position last season an succumbed to the pressure

[Cityblue]

They will do assuming we face sanctions.

Fundamentally it's a communist principle in a capitalist society - and UEFA are there to set sporting regulations, not financial ones.

Anyways. Even if you don't want to challenge it - there's plenty of ways around it if you have rich owners. Just like Man City have recently shown:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...d-9078607.html

But it's not like a normal company operating in a free market, clubs are given membership to a competition, and to join said competition you are bound by the rules set out. So it's a bit more complicated than saying it's my company I can spend what I want.

Bending/breaking the rules is obviously another discussion all together.

[Cityblue]

?? What's the plan then? Go up with this squad and then buy a whole new squad u deem good enough for the Prem?

Been there, done that, good luck to you guys if thats what u think will work.

Well I would imagine the plan will be the same as every other club that gets promoted from this league, buy some quality to add to what you already have.

Anyway, long way to go before we need to start thinking about that.

[West Acton]

Well, as it stands people have had a long time to challenge it and they haven't.

No ones been hit yet so therefore no need to challenge it.

How a club can be penalised for debts incurred in another league will also see the rule kiboshed as what is basically says is a side that gets promoted to the prem can still only spend a championship amount of money in fear that they go down and have debts outside which is allowed in the football league. That simply creates a monopoly which will see the same teams stay in the prem and the same sides get promoted and relegated

It wont happen

And I anticipate the first side to challenge it will be Chelsea as they will get left behind by Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs who will all have huge stadiums brining in big money which Chelsea will be unable to compete with, unless they move. There making the right noises now about being compliant but as soon as it starts working to their disadvantage Roman will put his hand in his pocket to even things up

[West Acton]

Well I would imagine the plan will be the same as every other club that gets promoted from this league, buy some quality to add to what you already have.

But spend much more then a championship club does and go down and you ourselves are then subject to fines for FFP.

Whats the point of going up and having the riches the prem brings if your restrained from spending it and trying to stay there in fear you get relegated and fined by another governing organisation

[maverick69]

But it's not like a normal company operating in a free market, clubs are given membership to a competition, and to join said competition you are bound by the rules set out. So it's a bit more complicated than saying it's my company I can spend what I want.

Bending/breaking the rules is obviously another discussion all together.

The whole premise is, and always has been, that you are bound by sporting regulations - not financial ones. That is not, or ever has been the mandate of UEFA. Trust me - most wealthy owners are chuckling to themselves..... because UEFA haven't got a hope in hell of enforcing it.

Just take one example/scenario: A chairman decides that he wants to invest in the infrastructure of his club in order to improve the long term sustainability, for example: A state-of-the-art training ground. He invests up-front and as a result, the books take a hit over a few years....... but he falls foul of "Fair Play". UEFA impose sanctions....... he goes to the European Court of Law.......

Lol. UEFA would (and probably will) be bankrupt within 2 years.

[West Acton]

The whole premise is, and always has been, that you are bound by sporting regulations - not financial ones. That is not, or ever has been the mandate of UEFA. Trust me - most wealthy owners are chuckling to themselves..... because UEFA haven't got a hope in hell of enforcing it.

Just take one example/scenario: A chairman decides that he wants to invest in the infrastructure of his club in order to improve the long term sustainability, for example: A state-of-the-art training ground. He invests up-front and as a result, the books take a hit over a few years....... but he falls foul of "Fair Play". UEFA impose sanctions....... he goes to the European Court of Law.......

Lol. UEFA would (and probably will) be bankrupt within 2 years.

Smacks of Governing Bodies trying to look like their doing something even though they know they cant

[maverick69]

Smacks of Governing Bodies trying to look like their doing something even though they know they cant

Yep. A bit of Sabre-rattling by the French at best.

[Cityblue]

But spend much more then a championship club does and go down and you ourselves are then subject to fines for FFP.

Whats the point of going up and having the riches the prem brings if your restrained from spending it and trying to stay there in fear you get relegated and fined by another governing organisation

Well you can spend £20m more on wages without even starting to worry about it as the first year parachute payment is £20m now. And it will be essential to have contracts with relegation clauses. You can go up and spend what you like on players fees as that won't count against you, it's the wages you are left with that's the worry if you come back.