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as we have such rubbish full backs then imo i think we should try a 3-5-2 formation,ramage,gorkss n connolly as c/halfs,ainsworth at r wing back n rowly in v l w/back,centre mid would b buzz n watson n routledge in v hole(he always seems to me that he cuts inside anyway) then up top would av simpson n helguson,to me that seems a team that would work 4 each other instead of trying to make themselves look gd at v exspense of v team. must admit have had a few beers as im writing this so forgive me if im talkin rubbish!!:embarrassed: