What a load of tosh

[superckat]

Under 16's in for free tomorrow night.

Whoop-de fu****g doo.

Kids are back at school so how many will be able to take advantage? Not my two.

I'll tell you what is wrong Conners.

TWO seasons of sod-all. That's not coming from a spoilt brat of a fan. I've been going thirty years and happily put up with some right old ****e in that time.
Yes we have a club -and money has been spent. But come on - has it been spent wisely?
Go on - argue the point, has ALL the money spent so far been right?

No? Why? Now some may blame GP - I don;t cos I know GP has as much say in spending of money as I do. FB don;t do delegation does he?
The long contracts, the pony players on those long contracts. This aint a moan about not signing players like Man City have done, this is about spending the money we have on rubbish. Too much for too little.
Now we have gone for two years without seeing too much benfit and fans are getting ****ed-off.

We ALL were positive - we all gave them time. We believed in them as they are astute business men. But have they not had enough time? Not spent enough money to at least have shown signs of progress?

And please defend the C club nonsense. What has that given us? Is it profitable?
Doubt it very much. Does it provide a "flagship" for the club? Not at all - cos it's always bloody empty.

So, what is happening? Where do you see us going and how?

"FB doesn't do failure" I hear you cry.
Well, actually, he does. Renault are a ****e team and have been for some years now.

And so are QPR.

I was happy with nothing, bumbling along. OK - so we may have gone out of business and ended-up in the Conference.
Well, so would I - I would have been there too. ****ed-off but accepting that we were just another victim of the current corporate greed in football.
Not saying I WANT it - God no. But would have accepted it.

Then we are promised much, by some chaps that have got so much (money and chat)
But it's all wearing a little thin.

THAT IS WHY THERE IS NEGATIVITY.

If you don;t see that you are either
a) On drugs
b) Insane
c) Ali Russell

Thanks for listening.

F**k me. That is excellent. I only wish this could have been the start of a thread. I hope it doesn't get lost in this one.

Well said. Post of the season, so far.

[conners]

AndyB, you go on about spending all the money on bad players etc but I think that there is a very good player for every bad one and would go as far to say that there are not too many bad ones actually.

You do go on about the way the money was spent badly. Whose money was spent badly ? Do you think it was yours ? No yours could not afford to pay for the paint on the toilet door. THey have spent their money or money that they will be responsible for.

Who are you to slate them ? They are a far bigger investor in this than you are and quite rightly they call the shots. You go on about the old times. After we fell out of the Premier League, things were dire but we just bloody put up with it.

We pay a bit more for our ticket and all of a sudden we are all big time charlies who want to start calling the shots.

I have supported QPR even longer than you so have just as much right to express my views as you do.

[AndyB]

Sure - express your views. Let others do the same.
Bit rich criticising me for that when you have openly told "unbelievers" to "fuc*-off and support Chelsea."

As for the rest of your reply - pitiful. You may have read my post - but you clearly didn't "get it" did you?
Cos straight away you come back with "it's their money" line.

Yes they call the shots. My point is they keep bloody missing.
Missing with EVERYTHING.

Changing the badge without consultation. Oh it's THEIR club - sorry, I forgot. We don;t count unless we invest £10 mil? Crap.

C Club. Still not answered that one eh?

Borrowdale. WTF went on there?
Agyemang on 4 year deal. WHY?????????????
More midfielders than a Liberal Party conference.

COMMUNICATION - you know, where they talk to us like we are part of the club, not some customer choosing between KFC and Macdonalds.

And on and on and on.......

I can;t believe I'm arguing this.

[Scarlet pimple]

AndyB, you go on about spending all the money on bad players etc but I think that there is a very good player for every bad one and would go as far to say that there are not too many bad ones actually.

You do go on about the way the money was spent badly. Whose money was spent badly ? Do you think it was yours ? No yours could not afford to pay for the paint on the toilet door. THey have spent their money or money that they will be responsible for.

Who are you to slate them ? They are a far bigger investor in this than you are and quite rightly they call the shots. You go on about the old times. After we fell out of the Premier League, things were dire but we just bloody put up with it.

We pay a bit more for our ticket and all of a sudden we are all big time charlies who want to start calling the shots.

I have supported QPR even longer than you so have just as much right to express my views as you do.

Do you really think they spend their money.....dear o dear.

[Quaz]

AndyB, you go on about spending all the money on bad players etc but I think that there is a very good player for every bad one and would go as far to say that there are not too many bad ones actually.

You do go on about the way the money was spent badly. Whose money was spent badly ? Do you think it was yours ? No yours could not afford to pay for the paint on the toilet door. THey have spent their money or money that they will be responsible for.

Who are you to slate them ? They are a far bigger investor in this than you are and quite rightly they call the shots. You go on about the old times. After we fell out of the Premier League, things were dire but we just bloody put up with it.

We pay a bit more for our ticket and all of a sudden we are all big time charlies who want to start calling the shots.

I have supported QPR even longer than you so have just as much right to express my views as you do.

trouble is when someone else posts opinions you don't agree with you don't like it....his post was excellent yet you try and pull it apart.....get off your high horse mate and take note...not everyone is as happy as you.

[AndyB]

THey have spent their money or money that they will be responsible for.

Do you really think "they" will be responsible for the spend?

It's a QPR debt mate.
If you believe anything else you really are living with the little winged ones at the end of the garden.

[stan_bowles]

Do you really think "they" will be responsible for the spend?

It's a QPR debt mate.
If you believe anything else you really are living with the little winged ones at the end of the garden.

Yeah,a debt that will still owed when the current owners have got bored with their plaything and decide to sell up.

[Sharpy]

Excellent post AndyB.

[Stanley]

We cannot hide behind the fact, in terms of opening macthes we could not have wished for easier

But Pete, everyone knows that we always raise our game against the big teams ;)

[pkloft]

Under 16's in for free tomorrow night.

Whoop-de fu****g doo.

Kids are back at school so how many will be able to take advantage? Not my two.

I'll tell you what is wrong Conners.

TWO seasons of sod-all. That's not coming from a spoilt brat of a fan. I've been going thirty years and happily put up with some right old ****e in that time.
Yes we have a club -and money has been spent. But come on - has it been spent wisely?
Go on - argue the point, has ALL the money spent so far been right?

No? Why? Now some may blame GP - I don;t cos I know GP has as much say in spending of money as I do. FB don;t do delegation does he?
The long contracts, the pony players on those long contracts. This aint a moan about not signing players like Man City have done, this is about spending the money we have on rubbish. Too much for too little.
Now we have gone for two years without seeing too much benfit and fans are getting ****ed-off.

We ALL were positive - we all gave them time. We believed in them as they are astute business men. But have they not had enough time? Not spent enough money to at least have shown signs of progress?

And please defend the C club nonsense. What has that given us? Is it profitable?
Doubt it very much. Does it provide a "flagship" for the club? Not at all - cos it's always bloody empty.

So, what is happening? Where do you see us going and how?

"FB doesn't do failure" I hear you cry.
Well, actually, he does. Renault are a ****e team and have been for some years now.

And so are QPR.

I was happy with nothing, bumbling along. OK - so we may have gone out of business and ended-up in the Conference.
Well, so would I - I would have been there too. ****ed-off but accepting that we were just another victim of the current corporate greed in football.
Not saying I WANT it - God no. But would have accepted it.

Then we are promised much, by some chaps that have got so much (money and chat)
But it's all wearing a little thin.

THAT IS WHY THERE IS NEGATIVITY.

If you don;t see that you are either
a) On drugs
b) Insane
c) Ali Russell

Thanks for listening.

that must be the largest nail I've ever seen hit squarely on it's bonce

If you don;t see that you are either
a) On drugs
b) Insane
c) Ali Russell

by the sounds of him, i'd say all three

[jjranger]

Under 16's in for free tomorrow night.

Whoop-de fu****g doo.

Kids are back at school so how many will be able to take advantage? Not my two.

I'll tell you what is wrong Conners.

TWO seasons of sod-all. That's not coming from a spoilt brat of a fan. I've been going thirty years and happily put up with some right old ****e in that time.
Yes we have a club -and money has been spent. But come on - has it been spent wisely?
Go on - argue the point, has ALL the money spent so far been right?

No? Why? Now some may blame GP - I don;t cos I know GP has as much say in spending of money as I do. FB don;t do delegation does he?
The long contracts, the pony players on those long contracts. This aint a moan about not signing players like Man City have done, this is about spending the money we have on rubbish. Too much for too little.
Now we have gone for two years without seeing too much benfit and fans are getting ****ed-off.

We ALL were positive - we all gave them time. We believed in them as they are astute business men. But have they not had enough time? Not spent enough money to at least have shown signs of progress?

And please defend the C club nonsense. What has that given us? Is it profitable?
Doubt it very much. Does it provide a "flagship" for the club? Not at all - cos it's always bloody empty.

So, what is happening? Where do you see us going and how?

"FB doesn't do failure" I hear you cry.
Well, actually, he does. Renault are a ****e team and have been for some years now.

And so are QPR.

I was happy with nothing, bumbling along. OK - so we may have gone out of business and ended-up in the Conference.
Well, so would I - I would have been there too. ****ed-off but accepting that we were just another victim of the current corporate greed in football.
Not saying I WANT it - God no. But would have accepted it.

Then we are promised much, by some chaps that have got so much (money and chat)
But it's all wearing a little thin.

THAT IS WHY THERE IS NEGATIVITY.

If you don;t see that you are either
a) On drugs
b) Insane
c) Ali Russell

Thanks for listening.

Excellent post.

[Cogster]

More midfielders than a Liberal Party conference.

Line of the year..

[ScottJones]

What a great great post by andyb

[Mr M]

You really have no clue what you're talking about. We were getting better support in the division below than we have this season. Fans rallied around with buckets to arrange collections to help fund players, when we had nothing. Other fans who were better off bought players for the club. In those days the club was on it's knees. Even Rodney Marsh predicted when we got relegated that we would get relegated again into the bottom tier. So carry on listening to what connors is spinning you. Because you have just proved his point about following suit.

When the club had a lot less than it has now. The fanbase was more positive and united. The unrest has come because the board and its suckass superfans(Unfortunately, I can't take the credit for that. pinched it from LFW) believes we should be forever grateful and never question the BS.

I talking about the here and now not what happened years ago. You have inadvertently proved my point, where is that spirit now, can you imagine what we might be able to achieve if fans supported the club in a similar fashion now, OK a slightly different scenario but all the same the Club/ Team needs the fans to turn up and support.

Why would you want to take credit for a comment that has a dig at fellow supporters? You discredit yourself with remarks like that!

If we ever get promoted to the Premiership there will be, hopefully an increase of fans wanting to come to the R’s. Will you dig out these fans as well?

[conners]

We are 11 places higher in the league than when these guys walked in the door. Is that not progress ? Those are the facts which history will judge us on.

C Club is a concept that will work when we reach the Premiership. Probably introduced way too early and given that I was one of the ones that was moved as a result i should have more to shout about than most.

As for debt, our club was already in a lot of debt before these guys walked in the door. We never would have paid it off. We may as well have ten times as much debt if people will give it to us as administration was the only way forward under the old regime if the current board didnt come in and is also the likely scenario should this board fail and walk away.