For the older Rangers...

[QPRDave]

He didn't say that. Please read before responding.

Now then little stowey why don't you go and play in the traffic and leave the proper football talk to grown ups.
The op said he would prefer fast paced 5-1 defeats to boring 0-0s. So by power of imagination and a little deduction if that were to happen in all games we would get relegated, but the op wouldn't mind because he has said he'd prefer that. Now is that ok ...whoever you are....marshy i suspect again.
Now please read, and don't respond you moaning halfwit

[QPRDave]

What a ridiculous thing to say and whilst you are never going to accept it but, maybe others' expectations are different from yours.... You might well be satisfied with a result even if the football on offer is pragmatic and as dull as ditchwater whereas someone else might expect entertaining football with some goalmouth action and excitement rather than leaving games drowsy or in a full blown coma.... They'll be dishing out pillows and blankets soon at LR as what's on offer from Rangers is such dross.....

Rangers need some injection of enthusiasm into the management/coaching structure as none of them seem to possess much spark these days it's like they've stepped out of the Newsnight studio rather than the MOTD one half the time.....!!!

Football is a sport is it not?...Sport is played to rules and to achieve an end result ...is it not? That's why you have league tables and a certain amount of games to accrue as many points as possible.
The 2 things sport does not guarantee is a result and whether all individuals will leave entertained. You want guaranteed entertainment go to the cinema or the circus, or something else you like.

[StoweyR]

Now then little stowey why don't you go and play in the traffic and leave the proper football talk to grown ups.
The op said he would prefer fast paced 5-1 defeats to boring 0-0s. So by power of imagination and a little deduction if that were to happen in all games we would get relegated, but the op wouldn't mind because he has said he'd prefer that. Now is that ok ...whoever you are....marshy i suspect again.
Now please read, and don't respond you moaning halfwit

At no point did the OP imply Rangers could be relegated. None of us want this. Why did this enter your head?

[twranger]

Football is a sport is it not?...Sport is played to rules and to achieve an end result ...is it not? That's why you have league tables and a certain amount of games to accrue as many points as possible.
The 2 things sport does not guarantee is a result and whether all individuals will leave entertained. You want guaranteed entertainment go to the cinema or the circus, or something else you like.

Exactly as I see it too dave!

[twranger]

Fair enough Jack. Still, don't you think it gets to a point where wanting to win isn't the most important thing? You go to football to be entertained, to feel emotions that are ideally good but sometimes bad. The reason we all love football and qpr so much is that it illicits an emotion. This year I go to games and nap, and get charged for the privilege. 30 years from now when I look back on how I spend my Saturdays I will remember the shocking quality football a decade ago much more fondly than I remember this season.

Well, don't go then and save your cash............no one's holding a gun to your head, it's not obligatory to go you know!!!
It's really a very simple choice and very very logical!!

[Factamondo]

thank you mr spock

[WeAreQPR12]

Well, don't go then and save your cash............no one's holding a gun to your head, it's not obligatory to go you know!!!
It's really a very simple choice!

Just out of interest tw have you been to more than 3 home games this season? Not having a pop but I see you more as a premier league fan which is fine as there are plenty out there myself included as I am done spending on this team

[BuffooneRy]

Football is a sport is it not?...Sport is played to rules and to achieve an end result ...is it not? That's why you have league tables and a certain amount of games to accrue as many points as possible.
The 2 things sport does not guarantee is a result and whether all individuals will leave entertained. You want guaranteed entertainment go to the cinema or the circus, or something else you like.

I suspect that you are from a generation whereby football and any other ball games that you watched were (and remain) a sport and in essence they still are and of course there has to be winners and losers etc but, at today's prices and with all of the media coverage and extra commercial funds that we all bang on about from Sky and BT etc to bring in expensive and(hopefully) talented players it has evolved into a form of entertainment so whether you accept or
like it or not there will be a sizeable proportion of fans who will want to be entertained without having to go to the pictures, theatre or circus for the privilege of doing so....

For whatever reason Harry et al have lost their collective mojo's and need to rediscover them soon or let someone have a go who can satisfy all of our needs... Results and some good old fashioned fun and excitement (entertainment)....

[TBLOCKRANGER]

I think you have a spllt between those that go regularly including ST holders and streamers/sky viewers.
Both sets want results that's a given, but the former want more for their buck, of course football is more than just results, if it wasn't then it wouldn't have so much sponsorship running into billions and the World Cup wouldn't be one of the biggest sporting spectacles in the world.
You watch the match on the computer and it's boring, so what you can switch on sky and watch Chelsea/Liverpool and enjoy. You're some poor sod who went to Watford in the cold and then got the train home, you might begrudge the lack of entertainment.
Even our Joey once said the reason he's paid a fortune is because he's in the entertainment business.
That's why SB is in QPR folklore, he entertained and got us results. Think it's too simple to say it's all about results.

[StoweyR]

Well, don't go then and save your cash............no one's holding a gun to your head, it's not obligatory to go you know!!!
It's really a very simple choice and very very logical!!

Ahh..., if only life were that simplistic and predictable. Life isn't predictable or simplistic. Don't know about you, but I wake up with the whole world in front of me...and it's wonderful and scary and...not logical at all...I love people and things...I love QPR and it hurts sometimes, just like all the other things in one's biography which engender an emotional response.

[MattyRangers]

Ahh..., if only life were that simplistic and predictable. Life isn't predictable or simplistic. Don't know about you, but I wake up with the whole world in front of me...and it's wonderful and scary and...not logical at all...I love people and things...I love QPR and it hurts sometimes, just like all the other things in one's biography which engender an emotional response.

[twranger]

Just out of interest tw have you been to more than 3 home games this season? Not having a pop but I see you more as a premier league fan which is fine as there are plenty out there myself included as I am done spending on this team

Yes and hate the prem and all it stands for mate......I've made that pretty clear many times on here. The Champs imo is where it's at!

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Yes and hate the prem and all it stands for mate......I've made that pretty clear many times on here. The Champs imo is where it's at!

Fair comment, you've always liked the champs, your nightmare is us going up. I'm kinda with you on that, wish it was like monopoly and if we get promoted we could sell our promotion to say Donny for £40m and their racecourse.

[twranger]

Ahh..., if only life were that simplistic and predictable. Life isn't predictable or simplistic. Don't know about you, but I wake up with the whole world in front of me...and it's wonderful and scary and...not logical at all...I love people and things...I love QPR and it hurts sometimes, just like all the other things in one's biography which engender an emotional response.

But it REALLY IS that simplistic......think about it for second.....if watching QPR is that boring at the moment, don't moan about it just stop going for a while. It IS NOT obligatory to go!!!
Why spend all that dosh on a ticket plus all the other stuff' travel etc for a boring end product and then come on here and moan about it!!! DONT GO!!!! Is that not common sense?

[StoweyR]

No mate, but thanks for asking. Just love things that make me stop and think.