A long way to go!

[superhoop67]

That's where you're wrong Vic, I don't get would up about it, I find it amusing seeing people who think they know more about running big business than our board members. I fully accept us fans understand our club better, but we don't know the mechanics of running successful and profitable organisations.

Besides, I'm sure TF had learned his lessons along the way which will make him a much better chairman.

you say TF has made mistakes ,what makes you so sure he will not make anymore

[W12_Ranger]

Problem though is when businessmen get involved in football. Remember a couple of years ago I was flying back from Sardinia with the family and the wife was reading one of those in flight magazines. They had an article from Briatore who has a nightclub on the island. He said football does bizarre things to wealthy blokes, said if your an owner and a millionaire it can make you skint and turn billionaires into millionaires. He said F1 can make you rich but owning a football club makes no sense.
I think if you become an owner of a football club you become almost Tsar like.
Thread on here a little while back about why German clubs are better run, that's because they have some type of rule that the fans own the majority of the club.
I wouldn't be surprised if ant feasibility test was run, I haven't heard from anyone that they've been contacted about the feasibility of filling a 40k stadium, it seems to have just been proposed. To my understanding no consultation or surveys were sent to ST holders, no fan meetings, polls, letter drops in the area.

T Block that is far too much sense you are talking , don't you realise these are successful business who know far more than us lowly supporters of QPR could ever do.

Shame on you !

[Stanley]

Problem though is when businessmen get involved in football. Remember a couple of years ago I was flying back from Sardinia with the family and the wife was reading one of those in flight magazines. They had an article from Briatore who has a nightclub on the island. He said football does bizarre things to wealthy blokes, said if your an owner and a millionaire it can make you skint and turn billionaires into millionaires. He said F1 can make you rich but owning a football club makes no sense.
I think if you become an owner of a football club you become almost Tsar like.
Thread on here a little while back about why German clubs are better run, that's because they have some type of rule that the fans own the majority of the club.
I wouldn't be surprised if ant feasibility test was run, I haven't heard from anyone that they've been contacted about the feasibility of filling a 40k stadium, it seems to have just been proposed. To my understanding no consultation or surveys were sent to ST holders, no fan meetings, polls, letter drops in the area.

I read that article too, it was a good read. Briatore had delusions of megalomania though. TF seems a different breed altogether. You make an interesting point nonetheless.

[QPRDave]

Problem though is when businessmen get involved in football. Remember a couple of years ago I was flying back from Sardinia with the family and the wife was reading one of those in flight magazines. They had an article from Briatore who has a nightclub on the island. He said football does bizarre things to wealthy blokes, said if your an owner and a millionaire it can make you skint and turn billionaires into millionaires. He said F1 can make you rich but owning a football club makes no sense.
I think if you become an owner of a football club you become almost Tsar like.
Thread on here a little while back about why German clubs are better run, that's because they have some type of rule that the fans own the majority of the club.
I wouldn't be surprised if ant feasibility test was run, I haven't heard from anyone that they've been contacted about the feasibility of filling a 40k stadium, it seems to have just been proposed. To my understanding no consultation or surveys were sent to ST holders, no fan meetings, polls, letter drops in the area.

I always thought though that Flav was talking about buying players at huge fees and then losing money because they ain't as good as 1st thought. Not putting bricks and mortar into the ground.
I do wonder if the ground will be like MK Dons as someone has suggested, and tbf if you can build a stadium with a 40,000 capacity for around the same price as a 30,000 then it not only shows ambition but good foresight imo. Fans will be generated if QPR can sustain a top flight presence, with all the coverage sky give and i'm sorry but this is London.
It seems to me the against crew (not saying this is your view) are against the a new stadium cause they don't want to rattle around in a big stadium with no support, but at the same time they insist that the
support must be from West London the same as them or that's just embarrassing too.
Strikes me some posters just want to moan. As i have said yesterday they're either on a wind up or very spoilt

[QPR Richard]

you say TF has made mistakes ,what makes you so sure he will not make anymore

I don't, but give the bloke a chance to come good.

[Stanley]

I fully accept us fans understand our club better, but we don't know the mechanics of running successful and profitable organisations.

This does seem to be the point W12 has a blind-spot over.

[superhoop67]

I always thought though that Flav was talking about buying players at huge fees and then losing money because they ain't as good as 1st thought. Not putting bricks and mortar into the ground.
I do wonder if the ground will be like MK Dons as someone has suggested, and tbf if you can build a stadium with a 40,000 capacity for around the same price as a 30,000 then it not only shows ambition but good foresight imo. Fans will be generated if QPR can sustain a top flight presence, with all the coverage sky give and i'm sorry but this is London.
It seems to me the against crew (not saying this is your view) are against the a new stadium cause they don't want to rattle around in a big stadium with no support, but at the same time they insist that the
support must be from West London the same as them or that's just embarrassing too.
Strikes me some posters just want to moan. As i have said yesterday they're either on a wind up or very spoilt

it does spoil you ,supporting QPR

[superhoop67]

I don't, but give the bloke a chance to come good.

And if it doesn't come good?

[W12_Ranger]

I don't, but give the bloke a chance to come good.

Done that for the previous 2 seasons and look what happened

[Stanley]

Strikes me some posters just want to moan. As i have said yesterday they're either on a wind up or very spoilt

Of course many are on a wind-up. This is the internet remember, Dave?

[Burnside]

I just don't want us to turn into one of those plastic clubs where you sit in a half full lifeless stadium next to someone who has only bought a ticket to see Rooney,Suarez. For as long as i have a hole in my #### i cannot see us being a 40k supported club. If we are in the PL you can expect 8-10k Mancs or Geordies coming down and outsinging our new breed fans.

[QPR Richard]

And if it doesn't come good?

As TF said, he will step aside.

[superhoop67]

As TF said, he will step aside.

at what point

[QPRDave]

it does spoil you ,supporting QPR

Which team would you rather watch ? ...this one or the Gregory/Waddock sides?... Tony and the board have delivered a fantastic squad yet posters still #### him off. He wants to build a new stadium and training ground yet still posters #### him off, calling him dodgy......See what i'm getting at?..He has delivered players we could only have dream't of having but even that ain't good enough for some.....that's what i mean by spoilt, or wums.
Cause if it weren't the stadium now, it would be the players or his business ability

[MyWord]

"I wouldn't be surprised if ant feasibility test was run, I haven't heard from anyone that they've been contacted about the feasibility of filling a 40k stadium, it seems to have just been proposed. To my understanding no consultation or surveys were sent to ST holders, no fan meetings, polls, letter drops in the area"

Neither did they ask when moving people from the LL
Neither did they ask when changing the badge
Neither did they ask when closing a bar in the ground
Neither did they ask when changing the grading of the ground
Neither did they ask when selling Les(say)ferdinand

Could go on.But you get my drift.Let`s make one thing clear here, we are just customers in the grand scheme of things, and if you or i for one minute think they give a flying fook what we think in the future lining of their pockets were totally deluded.