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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostWhos better then? stats say he is. Oh and please dont say adel, i know you love him but hes not in this division.
Kevin Mac, OK, I'll bite......
In Championship, Ince (as already mentioned), Wickham, McGugan, Dunn, Maloney, Eagles are similarly influential players in at least as good form as Joey if not better.
McCormack, Vaughn, Rhodes, Le Fondre, Pogrebnyak, McAnuff are good players and there have achieved this season at least what Barton has even if they are further upfield.
I'm sure you'll disagree with some of those - that's your perogative - but you'll also have to accept some are worthy of note.
For QPR, BAE is the best player at our club (currently) by a murder mile. He's too good for the Championship.
We have plenty of players who have more medals than Joey and more International caps, so I guess it depends on which stats you're looking at.
Of course, you could consider stats like Yellow cards, he's top of that with us & I'm guessing top 10 in the League - I can't be @rsed to check. Because stats can be read in different ways, dependant on your viewpoint and agenda.
He's doing OK, but I freely admit, I don't like him as a personality and I notice there's been little resistance to my comments about his off field antics over the months he's been with us or over the years beforehand.
I wasn't going to mention Adel, for the same reason you mentioned - he's elsewhere. Otherwise, I'd mention Remy also.
But if you want to live with Stats, last time QPR were in the Championship, Taarabt scored 19, Assisted 22 and was directly responsible for almost 60% of all our League goals. Barton could only dream of that.
Oh and he was Officially voted the Best player in the whole division by people who know much more about the game 1st hand than I ever will. So let's not just gloss over him just because it suits.
Yes he has his fault, too many of them, but as Warnock said focus on the good things he brings to the table. Joey isn't Snow White either.Last edited by QPR1976; 11-12-2013, 09:16 PM.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostI will give you Ince mate. Ince and Barton for me. Stats i meant is passes and tackles completed and ground covered.
Your a hard man to please Kev.
Wickham is on fire, plenty of others are in great form this season.
You've selected 3 stats that Joey is doing well in, but omit 3 with he's not so good at - Goals, Assists & Bookings.
Obviously work rate is important (and beats Adel hands down) but if ground covered was that essential, Mackie would have been sold to Barca or Bayern for £40m, Derry would have captainted England and they'd be a statue of Gary Waddock outside the Springbok !
All about opinions.
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