Tom Carroll

[QprSinceBirth]

Must have set us on the Backfoot a dozen times today whilst losing possession.

So you thought his passing was of an acceptable standard today then?

How can you complain about his passing when people have lower completion than him I just don't get it.

[QPR Richard]

You must be delusional or just a naturally negative guy.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/721115/LiveStatistics/England-Championship-2013-2014-Queens-Park-Rangers-Middlesbrough

88 passes with 86% completion ain't too shabby is it?

W12 claims his pass completion rate must've been 30%. The facts say otherwise. Almost three times better than W12's assessment. Says it all really.

[W12_Ranger]

How can you complain about his passing when people have lower completion than him I just don't get it.

Sorry you never answered the question , did you think his passing was of an acceptable standard today ?

[Rangers77]

How can you complain about his passing when people have lower completion than him I just don't get it.

Completion rates mean nothing. Especially if your only non completed pass gifts the opposition a goal and your passes never produce a chance....

[vblockranger]

Tbf I'm sure Rufus was saying he was a bit sloppy with his passing, in stages

[TBLOCKRANGER]

My take on it on having returned and now with a nice a cup of tea at home with Swancelona on the box was that Carroll gives us a different dimension to our game that I haven't seen for some time.
He just sits in front of the back four and as posters have said is always available and it eases the pressure off the back four and midfield as they can just lay the ball off to him. It resulted in us being dominant and boro just chasing. Admittedly Boro are v poor but experienced players like Krancur were using Carroll to lay the ball off to, admittedly it doesn't go much forward with him but we retain a lot more than we ever have in recent memory and allows players like Simpson, Krancur and Barton to concentrate on what they do best and players like Dunn and Hill are less exposed at having to play out with the ball or do long balls.
Does lose it on occassions but at least he takes responsibility something lacking from "premiership" players like BZ and Bosingwa.
Very impressed with him today but noted some in the crowd moaning that we were simply doing Spurs acedemy job of giving him experience. I disagree think him infront of the back four give us another option and he will definitely get better.

[westsussexranger]

He's a number 10 arry plays him too deep imo

[DeepcutHoop]

Sorry you never answered the question , did you think his passing was of an acceptable standard today ?

Was it possible that your review of his game is coloured slightly by your opinion and expectations of him?

Before the game you were dismissive of him, so it's possible that you noticed his incomplete passes more than the other players?

[W12_Ranger]

Sorry you never answered the question , did you think his passing was of an acceptable standard today ?

Silence is golden

Was it possible that your review of his game is coloured slightly by your opinion and expectations of him?

Before the game you were dismissive of him, so it's possible that you noticed his incomplete passes more than the other players?

I'd never heard off him before we signed him so had no expectations, can see a good player in there but I'm sorry he loses possession far too much in dangerous areas.

I take each game as it comes , seen him play a few times now and not convinced he's what we need. Firstly he is not our player so I couldn't care less about his potential , he's arrived with a big fanfare , been given the sacred No.10 shirt and has failed to produce a decent performance so far. If it were Karl Henry making the mistakes Carroll made today this board would be in meltdown!!!

[DouDou_87]

He's a number 10 arry plays him too deep imo

100% - Him and Faurlin should have swapped.

Some very good passing from him today but some mistakes too to be fair. Showed a lack of experience at times. Will be very useful against teams like Borough and other teams in this league who just sit back and offer nothing. Wouldn't trust him against the better teams away from home though, need Henry in there.

[terry ball]

Silence is golden



I'd never heard off him before we signed him so had no expectations, can see a good player in there but I'm sorry he loses possession far too much in dangerous areas.

I take each game as it comes , seen him play a few times now and not convinced he's what we need. Firstly he is not our player so I couldn't care less about his potential , he's arrived with a big fanfare , been given the sacred No.10 shirt and has failed to produce a decent performance so far. If it were Karl Henry making the mistakes Carroll made today this board would be in meltdown!!!

That's exactly the point these clowns don't get. We ain't a crèche for spurs kids. If We are getting players on loan then they should be of a better standard than our own. We shouldn't be trying to develop youngsters at our own possible expense. **** him off and use what we've got and maybe give our own a chance

[TW7R]

Only negative today for me , his pass completion must have been 30%.

A few glimpses of class but my word the amount of times he gave the ball away in dangerous areas was shocking

Totally agree.

Think he's been poor to be honest. Quite disappointed. Was expecting a lot more but hopefully ill be proved wrong.

[W12_Ranger]

That's exactly the point these clowns don't get. We ain't a crèche for spurs kids. If We are getting players on loan then they should be of a better standard than our own. We shouldn't be trying to develop youngsters at our own possible expense. **** him off and use what we've got and maybe give our own a chance

It infuriates me based on what I've seen Carroll shouldn't be starting. He'll probably have a stormer agianst bottom of the table Barnsley next week and a few plums on this thraed will be having kittens but its the bigger picture. It quite literally could take this lad half a season to find his feet, I don't think he is a player to grab the game by the scruff of the neck, I'm doubtful whether he'll make the grade at Spurs. Que the old cliches of he is young , has potential etc etc. A football fan should be able to turn up to a match and make an assessment of a player themselves.

[QPR Richard]

Some strange comments on here. We win, we keep another clean sheet, we're top of the league, we play what is considered by the manager our best game this season, and still some want to moan.

And how one or two can 'totally agree' with a guesstimate of 30% pass rate completion for Carroll when it was 86%, is bemusing.

I dread to think what some of you will be like if/when we eventually lose.....

[DeepcutHoop]

Silence is golden



I'd never heard off him before we signed him so had no expectations, can see a good player in there but I'm sorry he loses possession far too much in dangerous areas.

I take each game as it comes , seen him play a few times now and not convinced he's what we need. Firstly he is not our player so I couldn't care less about his potential , he's arrived with a big fanfare , been given the sacred No.10 shirt and has failed to produce a decent performance so far. If it were Karl Henry making the mistakes Carroll made today this board would be in meltdown!!!

I meant before today's game. You've been very critical about him after both of his previous appearances.

Just looking to work out why your assessment of his pass completion was so badly wrong. It's hard to trust your other assessments at face value based on that.

Your early post was wildly inaccurate, but the last couple show a little improvement tbf. I might give you a chance in the next matches assessment of Carroll, but I'll be calling for your head if you are still so far off the ball.