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  • Bet you any money nearly all of the fans of those teams mentioned wish they were in our position, joint top of the table, unbeaten and looking like we are going back to the prem where they haven't been in eons if ever.

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    • Originally posted by Jeems View Post
      . All I've known is disappointment after disappointment, so my apologies if wanting something slightly better for our club offends you!
      By wanting something 'slightly' better you mean sitting in a music venue with 3 or 4 empty seats around you and getting to watch our highlights on MOTD while they have to position the camera angles to avoid showing the lovely comfy shiny new BUT empty seats.

      No one is saying they don't want to be in the Premiership on merit, but some of us aren't blindly dancing down the Uxbridge Rd following the Piper playing Uncle Tony's tune.

      & are daring to voice our concerns !
      "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
      For us that would mean around 29k."


      QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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      • Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View Post
        By wanting something 'slightly' better you mean sitting in a music venue with 3 or 4 empty seats around you and getting to watch our highlights on MOTD while they have to position the camera angles to avoid showing the lovely comfy shiny new BUT empty seats.

        No one is saying they don't want to be in the Premiership on merit, but some of us aren't blindly dancing down the Uxbridge Rd following the Piper playing Uncle Tony's tune.

        & are daring to voice our concerns !
        Suggest an alternative that is financially viable?

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        • Originally posted by Jeems View Post
          Suggest an alternative that is financially viable?
          Pay players a basic wage with a realistic performance related bonus ?
          "Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
          For us that would mean around 29k."


          QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm

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          • It surprises me that a fair few fans on here don't want better things for our club, like a better stadium, better training facilities (that is coming courtesy of the current board), and playing at the highest level.

            Back in the day, we played at the top level finishing in respectable positions, and claiming the odd top scalp here and there, like the night in the late 80s when we beat Man Utd 3-2 with Andy Gray getting a couple.

            Football's changed a lot since those days. Many clubs have either redeveloped their grounds or built new ones. 8/20 prem clubs have new stadiums, with West Ham due to move, Chelsea looking for a new home, and Spurs either a new home or a rebuild. Failure to move with the times will condemn our club to oblivion. We simply have no future at an ageing ground that is well past its best.

            For those who want to stay put: what kind of future do we have if we stay at LR?
            Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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            • Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
              Failure to move with the times will condemn our club to oblivion
              Keep hearing this as well as the "its either move or back to the buckets!" Smells like ******** to me or scaremongering

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              • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                Keep hearing this as well as the "its either move or back to the buckets!" Smells like ******** to me or scaremongering
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'd much rather play at LR in the championship/league one, and train at harlington, with a fan base consisting entirely of West London-based fans and the offspring of QPR fans?

                Is that how you see our future? I'm not talking about the next 5-10 years, I mean the next 50 years and beyond.
                Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                • Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'd much rather play at LR in the championship/league one, and train at harlington, with a fan base consisting entirely of West London-based fans and the offspring of QPR fans?

                  Is that how you see our future? I'm not talking about the next 5-10 years, I mean the next 50 years and beyond.
                  Well not so sure now after you lot keep telling me its "that or oblivion!" ..hadnt we better warn all the other teams in the football league yet to move to a high capacity stadium? Do their fans know they are heading for oblivion or charity buckets? or does that just refer to those clubs like us that have been financially mismanaged in the last few years?

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                  • The other clubs obviously haven't been or are going to be in the premiership like us for unforeseeable future. They need not worry

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                    • Originally posted by jimmycarter View Post
                      The other clubs obviously haven't been or are going to be in the premiership like us for unforeseeable future. They need not worry
                      Oh i see well in that case i vote for not paying unsustainable premiership wages so that we dont have to move to a soulless multi format venue which will be far to big for us while sharing it with 1d/Elton John fans. Vote no for global branding. Vote no for marketing in Asia and buying players just for thats sake. Vote no for plastic fans. Vote no for tourists filling up some empty seasts and generally becoming another Fulham (a team we all like to take the **** out of for this very fact). Vote no for selling out like Chelsea. Vote no for rebranding (Cardiff), Renaming (Hull) and anything else where we may lose our identity (just in case these foreign owners have it in mind). Vote no for becoming a vehicle for rich owners to become richer while obtaining a nice West London venue.

                      Vote yes for getting promoted and giving it a go with the TV money in a sustainable fashion competing for 7th to 20th place and then back to the Championship for some proper football in a competitive league. Everyones a winner and certain "fans" even get too see their heroes Ozil and Rooney play down the Bush.()
                      Last edited by vblockranger; 11-09-2013, 07:23 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View Post
                        Pay players a basic wage with a realistic performance related bonus ?
                        Grand basic and make the rest up with a massive win bonus.
                        "The kids missed everything from Queens Park Rangers to Conkers".

                        London Pride has been handed down to us.
                        London Pride is a flower that's free.
                        London Pride means our own dear town to us,
                        And our pride it for ever will be.

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                        • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                          Well not so sure now after you lot keep telling me its "that or oblivion!" ..hadnt we better warn all the other teams in the football league yet to move to a high capacity stadium? Do their fans know they are heading for oblivion or charity buckets? or does that just refer to those clubs like us that have been financially mismanaged in the last few years?
                          Do you not remember the buckets? Going into administration? The shares being suspended and eventually becoming worthless? The ground being used as collateral for a loan from a dodgy company? The proposed merger? Relegation to the third tier?

                          These things ACTUALLY happened. Do I want to go back to those days? No thanks. If we don't develop and grow, all of it could happen again.
                          Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                          • Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                            Do you not remember the buckets? Going into administration? The shares being suspended and eventually becoming worthless? The ground being used as collateral for a loan from a dodgy company? The proposed merger? Relegation to the third tier?

                            These things ACTUALLY happened. Do I want to go back to those days? No thanks. If we don't develop and grow, all of it could happen again.
                            It could yes and so could we become another joke like Fulham or Chelsea....each to their own.

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                            • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                              It could yes and so could we become another joke like Fulham or Chelsea....each to their own.
                              I just wondered if you remembered any of those things and how close we came to going to the wall, because small revenue streams and lower league football could bring it all back again.
                              Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                              • Richard any update on warren farm? I hear there was yet another protest and has all gone quiet? Has work started?
                                I played sunday league football today.

                                Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                                I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                                We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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