Old oak common...

[vblockranger]

most people are born [through family or location] to follow QPR,not to follow a global brand ,look at the stick Man Utd fans get

And rightly so...lets not kid ourselves we are a small club with a small fanbase. I was excited too when the billionaires took over and promised us Champions league football in a few years. That excitement wore off rather quickly and i am wondering about the cost of this promised elevation to the elite and i dont mean cost in pounds.

[superhoop67]

people ask who you support ,you say QPR a conversation is struck as they know you are a football fan ,you say Man Utd ,Chelsea ,Liverpool and its "oh alright" then turn there back

[twranger]

people ask who you support ,you say QPR a conversation is struck as they know you are a football fan ,you say Man Utd ,Chelsea ,Liverpool and its "oh alright" then turn there back

This is so true!

[vblockranger]

people ask who you support ,you say QPR a conversation is struck as they know you are a football fan ,you say Man Utd ,Chelsea ,Liverpool and its "oh alright" then turn there back

Spot on mate and thats something i am going to be sad to lose if this board turns us into some marketable brand that plays in an over large multi purpose venue. Like i said i personally hope its all pie in the sky or that it all falls through as Loftus Road is part of my life and i still get excited walking up the road towards it. That excitement wont fade no matter what league we play in or what "names" play for us.

[superhoop67]

although not in favour of moving ,if so be can, we not improve on what we got ,why must it be a Global brand ,nothing wrong with a succesful local team being true to it,s roots do we honestly care if we can stage baseball,pop concerts and the like

[QPR Richard]

Ok, there seems to be a few who are still convinced staying put is the key to a good future. Let's look a little deeper into things.

In our own area, Fulham are expanding Craven Cottage, Brentford are building a new 25k stadium, and Chelsea are looking for a new home. Arsenal have moved, Spurs are looking for either a new home or expanding White Hart Lane. West Ham will eventually move to the Olympic stadium. See the pattern emerging?

Now, with a smaller stadium, we end up with less revenue and dwindling sponsorship. Our TV revenue becomes much reduced as many fans are content to see us play in lower leagues. Sponsors cash ends up at places like Fulham and Chelsea, and even Brentford, with their new stadium, manage to pull in additional revenue.

Meanwhile, at sub-19k Loftus Road, the diehards begin to die off and guess what, they're not replaced by a new generation because the new generation have gone off to support the likes of Chelsea and Fulham.

Our London rivals cease to be Chelsea or Fulham, but Leyton Orient. Eventually, sections of the ground begin to close because there's no money for repairs. Still, what remaining fans that are left could always get the buckets out again.

The new stadium isn't just about the here and now. It isn't about the few short-sighted people who think we can stay at LR for the next 50-100 years. It's about building a sustainable future for the club to ensure it survives long after all of us have snuffed it.

We have a one-off opportunity. If we fail to take it, be sure Chelsea will. If we allow Chelsea and Fulham to dominate NW, W, and SW London, with Brentford mopping up areas in Middlesex, where will we end up?

We will lose our soul when we lose our club.

[West Acton]

Sensing that some of the concern about moving is that fans are not overly impressed by a big new shiny ground possibly because it is viewed as underserving for a club our size and it takes away our identity kind of that we are trying to be something that we are not.

If the suggestion was moving to a more moderate stadium say 23k to 25k in the mould of Millwall or Reading would people feel different and be more comfortable with the idea

[West Acton]

Ok, there seems to be a few who are still convinced staying put is the key to a good future. Let's look a little deeper into things.

In our own area, Fulham are expanding Craven Cottage, Brentford are building a new 25k stadium, and Chelsea are looking for a new home. Arsenal have moved, Spurs are looking for either a new home or expanding White Hart Lane. West Ham will eventually move to the Olympic stadium. See the pattern emerging?

Now, with a smaller stadium, we end up with less revenue and dwindling sponsorship. Our TV revenue becomes much reduced as many fans are content to see us play in lower leagues. Sponsors cash ends up at places like Fulham and Chelsea, and even Brentford, with their new stadium, manage to pull in additional revenue.

Meanwhile, at sub-19k Loftus Road, the diehards begin to die off and guess what, they're not replaced by a new generation because the new generation have gone off to support the likes of Chelsea and Fulham.

Our London rivals cease to be Chelsea or Fulham, but Leyton Orient. Eventually, sections of the ground begin to close because there's no money for repairs. Still, what remaining fans that are left could always get the buckets out again.

The new stadium isn't just about the here and now. It isn't about the few short-sighted people who think we can stay at LR for the next 50-100 years. It's about building a sustainable future for the club to ensure it survives long after all of us have snuffed it.

We have a one-off opportunity. If we fail to take it, be sure Chelsea will. If we allow Chelsea and Fulham to dominate NW, W, and SW London, with Brentford mopping up areas in Middlesex, where will we end up?

We will lose our soul when we lose our club.

Great post Richard!!!!!!

I think what some are saying above though is that they are content with QPR be a medium sized club and have no aspirations to compete with those that you say above. I suppose part of the attraction of QPR to all of us was that we were the under dog who punched above our weight and who were pretty good at it as well and some are uncomfortable moving away from the idealistic view which trapped and attracted us in the first place

For me I want to compete with Chelsea!! but I don't just want to give them a b loody nose every now and then I want to knock them spark out as often as possible and if a new ground contributes towards that im all for it

For me if we move it is for us the fans to ensure we don't loose our identity and build upon it.

[QPR Richard]

Spot on mate and thats something i am going to be sad to lose if this board turns us into some marketable brand that plays in an over large multi purpose venue. Like i said i personally hope its all pie in the sky or that it all falls through as Loftus Road is part of my life and i still get excited walking up the road towards it. That excitement wont fade no matter what league we play in or what "names" play for us.

Serious question V, why don't you start a pressure group to stop the move from LR? You seem to be the biggest advocate of staying put so why not do something about it? There are several others who are desperate to remain, so perhaps you should band together to put pressure on the board not to go ahead with the move.

[skranger]

Ok, there seems to be a few who are still convinced staying put is the key to a good future. Let's look a little deeper into things.

In our own area, Fulham are expanding Craven Cottage, Brentford are building a new 25k stadium, and Chelsea are looking for a new home. Arsenal have moved, Spurs are looking for either a new home or expanding White Hart Lane. West Ham will eventually move to the Olympic stadium. See the pattern emerging?

Now, with a smaller stadium, we end up with less revenue and dwindling sponsorship. Our TV revenue becomes much reduced as many fans are content to see us play in lower leagues. Sponsors cash ends up at places like Fulham and Chelsea, and even Brentford, with their new stadium, manage to pull in additional revenue.

Meanwhile, at sub-19k Loftus Road, the diehards begin to die off and guess what, they're not replaced by a new generation because the new generation have gone off to support the likes of Chelsea and Fulham.

Our London rivals cease to be Chelsea or Fulham, but Leyton Orient. Eventually, sections of the ground begin to close because there's no money for repairs. Still, what remaining fans that are left could always get the buckets out again.

The new stadium isn't just about the here and now. It isn't about the few short-sighted people who think we can stay at LR for the next 50-100 years. It's about building a sustainable future for the club to ensure it survives long after all of us have snuffed it.

We have a one-off opportunity. If we fail to take it, be sure Chelsea will. If we allow Chelsea and Fulham to dominate NW, W, and SW London, with Brentford mopping up areas in Middlesex, where will we end up?

We will lose our soul when we lose our club.

Very good Rich ....... Say's it all

[vblockranger]

Serious question V, why don't you start a pressure group to stop the move from LR? You seem to be the biggest advocate of staying put so why not do something about it? There are several others who are desperate to remain, so perhaps you should band together to put pressure on the board not to go ahead with the move.

There a lot more staunch supporters of staying put at Loftus Rd than me mate but they dont post on here, this is after all just a microcosm of our fanbase. I am not really a group joiner but personally i hope it all falls through or it takes 10 years or more before a new ground is ready. The longer the better. Hopefully the billionaires get bored by then anyway.

[vblockranger]

So its buckets or a this new multi purpose stadium? see that posted quite a bit on here and it stinks of bullsh1t. You can keep the over-hyped prem and the ludicrous wages, you can stuff global branding and marketing potential and you can shove plastic fans going to a plastic stadium where the sun dont shine. Rather we was in the Championship or League 1 than sell our soul to become another Chelsea. We are a small club with a small exclusive fanbase and i hope it remains that way for many years. I can always hope :-) but like you say Rich...each to their own.

[Qprnw10]

Ok, there seems to be a few who are still convinced staying put is the key to a good future. Let's look a little deeper into things.

In our own area, Fulham are expanding Craven Cottage, Brentford are building a new 25k stadium, and Chelsea are looking for a new home. Arsenal have moved, Spurs are looking for either a new home or expanding White Hart Lane. West Ham will eventually move to the Olympic stadium. See the pattern emerging?

Now, with a smaller stadium, we end up with less revenue and dwindling sponsorship. Our TV revenue becomes much reduced as many fans are content to see us play in lower leagues. Sponsors cash ends up at places like Fulham and Chelsea, and even Brentford, with their new stadium, manage to pull in additional revenue.

Meanwhile, at sub-19k Loftus Road, the diehards begin to die off and guess what, they're not replaced by a new generation because the new generation have gone off to support the likes of Chelsea and Fulham.

Our London rivals cease to be Chelsea or Fulham, but Leyton Orient. Eventually, sections of the ground begin to close because there's no money for repairs. Still, what remaining fans that are left could always get the buckets out again.

The new stadium isn't just about the here and now. It isn't about the few short-sighted people who think we can stay at LR for the next 50-100 years. It's about building a sustainable future for the club to ensure it survives long after all of us have snuffed it.

We have a one-off opportunity. If we fail to take it, be sure Chelsea will. If we allow Chelsea and Fulham to dominate NW, W, and SW London, with Brentford mopping up areas in Middlesex, where will we end up?

We will lose our soul when we lose our club.

Good post...although i must say, arsenal and spurs to a lesser degree have already moped up a large proportion of NW London.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Have you got a mobile phone vblock? Not being funny, just wondering. You seem a bit reluctant to change and the modern world, and strike me as the type who wouldn't have one after I read that post.

[loneranger]

Have you got a mobile phone vblock? Not being funny, just wondering. You seem a bit reluctant to change and the modern world, and strike me as the type who wouldn't have one after I read that post.

He might be sir Robert elms