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Originally posted by SammyKojoe View PostThis is where your lack of understanding of English football is highlighted big time. Green is a far better keeper for the Championship. Cesar is very weak in coming for crosses or off his line which in this league happens a lot. In tight games when balls are being tossed in the mixer Green is a lot more commanding. Hence why Green is a better choice and should play.
Green also is number 1 on merit. 3 cleans sheets and showing good form. Cesar wants to be number 1 he has to earn it. Or wait the possible Green clanger!
Don't agree with all the Cesar bashing. He wants to leave to be number 1 for a World Cup in his home country. Nothing wrong with that. As has been explained Harry thinks he is a top keeper and a top pro. Not a moments bother and him and Green train very well together which can only be beneficial surely?
I think commanding the box is a big part of championship football and Green does that while Cesar prefers his line - the Villa equaliser is an example of how that is a problem.
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Green has to be in front of Cesar as he has earnt his place. For me, Cesar has to prove he is the number one this season. Competition for the spot is only going to benefit us.
I noticed Green was in more winning teams for us than Cesar last season. Wonder what the stats are head-to-head on goals against, etc
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Green is a leader, strong, solid, collect crosses & punches/pushes the ball far with a strong hand. That is what English goal keepers need to be successful here & win gamesUnder Les Ferdinand:
Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
And many more mistakes
LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO
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Originally posted by bonheurjh View PostThis is what I can't understand the most.
Why is the number 1 Brazilian International Goalkeeper treated this way?
Is there any of you who feel the same way?
If so, I am glad.
If you don't quite agree with the idea of Cesar starting plz tell me the reasons.
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Cesar said he is happy to be with us. The only reason for trying to leave prob was bcos of the worldcup concern for his home team.
So his devotion and loyalty we can never know unless we are with him to talk directly.
However, thanks for letting me know some sound points of green being good and more suited to english style of football.
And i also agree green has better communication with back four for the obvious reason we all know
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Originally posted by W12_Ranger View PostName me 3 great Brazilian goalkeepers, bet you can't?
But still just by purely testing out talent of the both, it is obvious cesar is much better.
But i agree that green could be of better choice in english league becos cesar seems to neglect the pacy and fierce football style of english footballers and keep punching away easy balls rather than grabbing them.
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Originally posted by qpr View PostGreen is a leader, strong, solid, collect crosses & punches/pushes the ball far with a strong hand. That is what English goal keepers need to be successful here & win games
If you are judging how useful green is compared to cesar in ENGLISH LEAGUE, it seems spot on and very sound no question at all.
But i just dont understand people slating down cesar saying he is no good(not for us but as a player).
Cesar is definitely more talented and gifted keeper than green imo though not suited in england
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Originally posted by W12_Ranger View PostName me 3 great Brazilian goalkeepers, bet you can't?
Taffarel has won everything except a champions league.
Cesar has won everything except a World Cup.
Dida has won everything there is to win.@chrisrobson9
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Originally posted by qpr View PostGreen is a leader, strong, solid, collect crosses & punches/pushes the ball far with a strong hand. That is what English goal keepers need to be successful here & win games
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Originally posted by jmelanie View PostI am not sure we can base either goalkeepers on last season, since the defence didn't really do much to help out.
The defending last season was largely comical and non existent.
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