It looks like Cesar is staying

[stanistheman]

Like I keep on posting statistcally he was the best goalkeeper in the prem last season.

fans want to just remember his errors at home to West Ham and at Villa amongst one or two others, never mind that Green made just as many errors in about a a fith of the games Cesar played!

[MattyRangers]

fans want to just remember his errors at home to West Ham and at Villa amongst one or two others, never mind that Green made just as many errors in about a a fith of the games Cesar played!

And yet still kept more clean sheets than Cesar I might add

[Bluehoop]

I beg to differ with your opening statement mate; Championship = more long balls lumped in. We all saw what Cesar did (or didn't do) at Villa away when dealt a long ball into his 6 yard box. Green has been here done it & proven himself.

As for this "next fark up" - what a myth. The bloke had 1 high profile error for England and has been tarred with that brush ever since. In fairness had a c0ck up vs Swansea first game and a debatable one vs WBA - certainly no more than Cesar himself. I have no idea where this Cesar love in comes from, he has a far superior CV than Green and that's about it. Basing opinions solely on QPR games; there's not much in it for me. Both very good shot stoppers with the odd error to their game thrown in, just seems there's alot of selective memory when it comes to highlighting such errors.

You refer to harmony and wages citing Green's reported £50k a week income - yet Cesar is on even more than him!

Blue's aforementioned point ref team harmony and morale is a very good 1 and spot on - this English / British backbone we now have to the side is, IMO, going to be a huge factor in our success this season.

Anyway, this debate has been done 1000 times over and there will be no change; you're either Team Green or Team Cesar and, me personally, am Team Green with Arry seemingly so as well.

Well said Matty, you just saved me the bother of trawling back to my previous comments on the topic so thanks for that too.
One black mark though mate - you forgot to remind people that Cesar seems incapable of kicking the ball more than about 10 yards

[Shepherds Mush]

Green played in more wins as well !

TEAM GREEN

[Dazzer1977]

I think clubs like arsenal waiting to see if we are going to crack and let him go for free with a pay off leaving them with a bargain and him with a bumper signing on fee ,
Greene is expenive his self reported £50k a week , I think if anybody is being truthful he hardly fills them with confidence , would you choose Ceaser over Greene well if your'e paying his wages of couse you would rember ther's no room for sentiment or loyalty in football

Once I've deciphered what you wrote I'd like to add the following...

Correction. He wasn't expensive. He cost us nothing. For a keeper of his quality we could of paid in excess of £2million, plus signing on fee and big wages. £5.2million over 2 years is peanuts in the grand scheme of things for a keep of his quality. It drives me crazy when people label free transfers on decent money as expensive when you take out the bigger picture in the argument.

Expect Ceasar to be sold in the final few days of the window so don't believe all you've read in the media.

[zeberdee]

I beg to differ with your opening statement mate; Championship = more long balls lumped in. We all saw what Cesar did (or didn't do) at Villa away when dealt a long ball into his 6 yard box. Green has been here done it & proven himself.

As for this "next fark up" - what a myth. The bloke had 1 high profile error for England and has been tarred with that brush ever since. In fairness had a c0ck up vs Swansea first game and a debatable one vs WBA - certainly no more than Cesar himself. I have no idea where this Cesar love in comes from, he has a far superior CV than Green and that's about it. Basing opinions solely on QPR games; there's not much in it for me. Both very good shot stoppers with the odd error to their game thrown in, just seems there's alot of selective memory when it comes to highlighting such errors.

You refer to harmony and wages citing Green's reported £50k a week income - yet Cesar is on even more than him!

Blue's aforementioned point ref team harmony and morale is a very good 1 and spot on - this English / British backbone we now have to the side is, IMO, going to be a huge factor in our success this season.

Anyway, this debate has been done 1000 times over and there will be no change; you're either Team Green or Team Cesar and, me personally, am Team Green with Arry seemingly so as well.

Good post. That Villa equaliser did it for me. Do that in the Championship and you will concede goals every game. Waste of money having 2 highly paid keepers in the championship. Not even sure it makes sense for a CL club. Green is better imo and hope he stays and Cesar goes.

[Hitman34]

Once I've deciphered what you wrote I'd like to add the following...

Correction. He wasn't expensive. He cost us nothing. For a keeper of his quality we could of paid in excess of £2million, plus signing on fee and big wages. £5.2million over 2 years is peanuts in the grand scheme of things for a keep of his quality. It drives me crazy when people label free transfers on decent money as expensive when you take out the bigger picture in the argument.

Expect Ceasar to be sold in the final few days of the window so don't believe all you've read in the media.

really dont mean to keep digging you out mate but salad was not a free transfer. it was an undisclosed fee which was agreed by the two clubs.

the likely hood is that he did get a signing on fee and received a 4 year contract probably on a minimum 60k a week.

work that out over 4 years and tell me if you think that is not expensive!

[Bluehoop]

really dont mean to keep digging you out mate but salad was not a free transfer. it was an undisclosed fee which was agreed by the two clubs.

the likely hood is that he did get a signing on fee and received a 4 year contract probably on a minimum 60k a week.

work that out over 4 years and tell me if you think that is not expensive!

Think you will find he was talking about Green

[Hitman34]

jeeeezzz what is wrong with me today. think i need a lay down

cheers blue and sorry dazzerrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[dogsrrs]

Right then Matty where do you get this Ceaser love in from I have never said anything to suggest I want him to stay or think he is good for the club I have always maintained idealy I would want both Ceaser and Greene out but the world isn't built around ideals we can't get shot of Greene on his wages,I will maintain Ceaser is the better keeper as he can be great on his day where Greene can be good on his day do I want Ceaser out bet your life I do for the sake club

[Johnnykc]

God sake, haven't we done this topic to death yet. It's not about being a better keeper because that is somewhat subjective. It's about two things - who is the better keeper for the league we are in and that is quite simply Green - and I'm not going to write another essay on the reasons why. And secondly, this season is about team mentality, attitude and desire to play for QPR in the Championship. Again, Green wins hands down.
But hey, we have Brazil international Cesar, who doesn't fit either of the above criteria but we should play him anyway because he's simply the best

Me?......I would have Green all day long but as regards the bit I've highlighted...........we have another example in Joey big b 0llox who couldn't get his desired move but has knuckled down and got off to a flyer.......maybe Salad could do the same?

[MattyRangers]

Right then Matty where do you get this Ceaser love in from I have never said anything to suggest I want him to stay or think he is good for the club I have always maintained idealy I would want both Ceaser and Greene out but the world isn't built around ideals we can't get shot of Greene on his wages,I will maintain Ceaser is the better keeper as he can be great on his day where Greene can be good on his day do I want Ceaser out bet your life I do for the sake club

Cesar love in comment weren't necessarily aimed at you geez so apologies if it seemed that way. Thing is again yuo say getting shot of Green on his wages, yet he earns less than Cesar?

[Bluehoop]

Me?......I would have Green all day long but as regards the bit I've highlighted...........we have another example in Joey big b 0llox who couldn't get his desired move but has knuckled down and got off to a flyer.......maybe Salad could do the same?

Possibly, but with Barton he hasn't really been put in the team ahead of anyone already doing a good job and previously committed to the cause. Green on the other hand didn't cause a scene last year when Cesar was ahead of him (even when not 100% fit) and if Cesar came back in now, ahead of Green it might just upset the harmony within the camp?

[West Acton]

I beg to differ with your opening statement mate; Championship = more long balls lumped in. We all saw what Cesar did (or didn't do) at Villa away when dealt a long ball into his 6 yard box. Green has been here done it & proven himself.

As for this "next fark up" - what a myth. The bloke had 1 high profile error for England and has been tarred with that brush ever since. In fairness had a c0ck up vs Swansea first game and a debatable one vs WBA - certainly no more than Cesar himself. I have no idea where this Cesar love in comes from, he has a far superior CV than Green and that's about it. Basing opinions solely on QPR games; there's not much in it for me. Both very good shot stoppers with the odd error to their game thrown in, just seems there's alot of selective memory when it comes to highlighting such errors.You refer to harmony and wages citing Green's reported £50k a week income - yet Cesar is on even more than him!

Blue's aforementioned point ref team harmony and morale is a very good 1 and spot on - this English / British backbone we now have to the side is, IMO, going to be a huge factor in our success this season.

Anyway, this debate has been done 1000 times over and there will be no change; you're either Team Green or Team Cesar and, me personally, am Team Green with Arry seemingly so as well.

A top post Matty which I agree in the main with. The only thing I would disagree with is that Green for his whole career has been known for letting clangers in going back to Norwich, West Ham England and us. Hes a decent keeper but for one reason or another his career is littered with goals he should have kept out

[Felt]

Why in god's name the club decided we needed Cesar after signing a keeper like Green is beyond me. Total blind idiocy.