New stadium means nothing to me. If these backers are still here by the time they reckon it will be built will be a massive result for me.
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Originally posted by jimmycarter View PostNew stadium means nothing to me. If these backers are still here by the time they reckon it will be built will be a massive result for me.
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Originally posted by QPR71 View Postmittals have so much wedge its hardly worth the bother to pull out......tony literally loves qpr I sense, he's going nowhereSupporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostPerhaps some fans do not wish to see us progress and are happy for our future to be playing in lower leagues in a 18.5k dilapidated ground.PRIDE OF LONDON.
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Originally posted by bushcelt1 View PostPeople are looking at other clubs misfortunes and are understandably cautious. For big clubs to make such a big jump in attendance is easy as they already have a ready fanbase. I would love us to upgrade and enjoy the luxury of a state of the art stadium but for every success there are a lot more failures.
I have no doubts it will help us grow as a club and allow us to compete with the big clubs.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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The concerns are genuine, Tonys track record so far at our club has so far been poor (hes admitted to mistakes) and his judgment has been questionable. Not a quantum leap for posters to consider whether the gamble of a new stadium is risk free or another poor judgement call.
Some posters mitigate the risk by the fact the mittal family are involved and therefore will somehow guarantee losses or save us if it all goes the way of Coventry. However the Mittals wouldn't up their offer for full control of the club by £20m or less so why as minority shareholders are they going to be the chief financiers of a £200m stadium.Last edited by TBLOCKRANGER; 21-08-2013, 10:13 PM.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostThe reason I think it will be a success is because it's in London, it will be multi-purpose, unique as it may have a retractable roof, it'sd being financed with naming rights, and it's part of a major development.
I have no doubts it will help us grow as a club and allow us to compete with the big clubs.PRIDE OF LONDON.
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Originally posted by bushcelt1 View PostI agree that London is a massive pull and the new proposed rail network has huge implications on any move. The vision that the board are Looking at can be acchieved but i worry that they Will try to be too big too soon.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostIt'll take a number of years before it's ready to host the first game. We should start now because if we don't, those toe rags from SW6 will step in, and if that happens, it'll be over for us. They will mop up most future support in NW, W, and SW London.
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Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER View PostThe concerns are genuine, Tonys track record so far at our club has so far been poor (hes admitted to mistakes) and his judgment has been questionable. Not a quantum leap for posters to consider whether the gamble of a new stadium is risk free or another poor judgement call.
Some posters mitigate the risk by the fact the mittal family are involved and therefore will somehow guarantee losses or save us if it all goes the way of Coventry. However the Mittals wouldn't up their offer for full control of the club by £20m or less so why as minority shareholders are they going to be the chief financiers of a £200m stadium.
I don't think a comparison between Coventry and London can be made in terms of business models. London has far more going for it than Coventry, and the stadium will be multi-purpose thus bringing in money.
Besides, who would have thought the white elephant that was the millennium dome would be transformed into the world's busiest music arena? Our chief executive had a big hand in that.
If you don't trust Tony to deliver, how about showing a little faith in the rest of the board to handle this project?Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER View PostThe concerns are genuine, Tonys track record so far at our club has so far been poor (hes admitted to mistakes) and his judgment has been questionable. Not a quantum leap for posters to consider whether the gamble of a new stadium is risk free or another poor judgement call.
Some posters mitigate the risk by the fact the mittal family are involved and therefore will somehow guarantee losses or save us if it all goes the way of Coventry. However the Mittals wouldn't up their offer for full control of the club by £20m or less so why as minority shareholders are they going to be the chief financiers of a £200m stadium.
various aspects of high finance. no one pulls 200 mill out of their pocket.
tony (and the boards) judgement has not been questionable. in relation to the business and infrastructure side of the club, they have been superb, delivering on everything they promise...pretty much instantly...not withstanding
such things as planning permission, which some find trivial.
in term of the football side its all been said, they go all guns to get the players WE ALL THINK WE NEED AT THE TIME. relegation occurred, that is the name of the game, its hard to stabilise. they are in the process of putting things right
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jOriginally posted by QPR Richard View PostPerhaps some fans do not wish to see us progress and are happy for our future to be playing in lower leagues in a 18.5k dilapidated ground.
QPR often got 25 - 28,000 in the hooligan rife 70s and can easily get that now that English football has managed to almost eradicate hooliganism at grounds and in a decent ground playing in the premiership I really dont see how they wont attract 25,000 QPR fans + whatever the visiting fans turn up. meaning most games would have around 30-32,000. and success to QPR and another 5-10,000 QPR fans will watch.
that may be being a bit optimistic, but I'd rather that than stick to loftus Road or build s 25k stadium.
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