QPR flash new stadium!!!!!

[QPR Richard]

Where have I said it will only be football played there? I know it will be a multi purpose venue. But that doesn't change my opinion 40k is vastly oversized. Personally don't care if it sells out for One Direction in a Friday night, I don't want a half empty stadium nor 1 half full of tourists for QPR games. 40k in one jump is too much got us. 25k with the option to increase further down the line.

Your last point us a very good 1 and I can see that point, I'm not against a stadium but I think we need to be realistic and sensible with the initial capacity to avoid embarrassment .

I for one DO care if it sells out for OD on a Friday night. It means more money going into the coffers, and this is what it's really about, increasing revenues for the club. By increasing our income, it will allow us to compete with bigger clubs, especially in the age of financial fair play. I doubt very much we will be playing in a half empty stadium if we become an established EPL club, and there's no reason why we can't. If the likes of Fulham and Stoke can, why not us?

[WeAreQPR12]

I for one DO care if it sells out for OD on a Friday night. It means more money going into the coffers, and this is what it's really about, increasing revenues for the club. By increasing our income, it will allow us to compete with bigger clubs, especially in the age of financial fair play. I doubt very much we will be playing in a half empty stadium if we become an established EPL club, and there's no reason why we can't. If the likes of Fulham and Stoke can, why not us?

That is basically the fact of the matter, if we can compete people will come. My mates want to see a good london premier league game and they support liverpool and man u

[brightonr]

I know you're Rangers through and through but there does tend to be a real soft spot for your local team.

Have you ever considered buying a ST, for example last season when we were in the premier and high ticket prices, not a pop just wondering because with there facilities etc it much have been tempting?

Not for one moment WeAre. I certainly don't want Brighton to be having much success, as it is my firm belief that such a team shouldn't even be in the same division as us. The fact that they are is irritating beyond belief. But that is mainly down to Hughes and the players he brought in, with a sprinkling of Redknapp.

Would never regard anything you say as having a pop mate. Think we've got a bit more regard for each other than that.

[WeAreQPR12]

Not for one moment WeAre. I certainly don't want Brighton to be having much success, as it is my firm belief that such a team shouldn't even be in the same division as us. The fact that they are is irritating beyond belief. But that is mainly down to Hughes and the players he brought in, with a sprinkling of Redknapp.

Would never regard anything you say as having a pop mate. Think we've got a bit more regard for each other than that.

I agree with you on that but we're most definitely in the minority camp.

[West Acton]

I think we need to remove the thought that the 40k stadium is for our needs as its not were just part of the plan which is actually ok with me.

If the board/club were simply building a stadium for us it would prob be 25k max 30k but the stadium is likely to be used for events separate to us where a minimum of a 40k stadium will be required hence why if it progresses they have opted for that capacity. Building a 25k (prob ideal for us) would be a false economy of scale for the board and would not serve the additional purpose of a multi use stadium which is the vision.

If we do get a 40k ground I hope it is built cleverly so when it is not sold out you can have shutters or something of that sort that can be pulled down to hide off parts of the stadium not sold, could be a commercial opportunity as the shutters could have advertising on them.

As for timescales and a total development timeframe of 2026 I don't see why we could not be the first part of the project and the stadium be built before other aspects of the project so for me it would not be 2026 that we arrive. If the deal is agreed I would suspect a new ground within 4/5 years as why put it off??? The sooner it is built the sooner they can start making their money back so it will be full steam ahead with these guys and the infrastructure etc will be built around it.

[QPR71]

"The area to the north of the Grand Union Canal could be particularly important for kick starting the regeneration of the wider area......it may be possible for a major.....entertainment or sports provider to help to act as a catalyst for the regeneration of the area by frontloading the provision of infrastructure and giving the area an identity."

from page 30

suggests the stadium, if it happens will come first

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

I think the point of gaining new fans, especially in West London, not a hard 1 to fathom. I can tell you two personal stories,

1 of my mate who went to Uni at Imperial and whilst being a massive supporter of his hometown club (Shrewsbury), he and his housemates had a Fulham season ticket because the club was Premier League, the ground had character and wasn't a soulless behemoth (ie. the Emirates), and was a decent price.

My other mate, has just moved back to Croydon after years of working in the States. He's originally from Crawley, and while he says he supports Crawley Town casually, he's said he will definitely try to get to as many Palace fixtures as possible as its a decent size (26k), decent atmosphere, and a decent price. He's just got a newborn as well, so you can imagine that makes 2 new supporters of Palace.

Those cases could have been qpr. I know its a narrow 1:1 view, but just sayin..

[West Acton]

"The area to the north of the Grand Union Canal could be particularly important for kick starting the regeneration of the wider area......it may be possible for a major.....entertainment or sports provider to help to act as a catalyst for the regeneration of the area by frontloading the provision of infrastructure and giving the area an identity."

from page 30

suggests the stadium, if it happens will come first

That's what I was suggesting as the stadium will attract trade and will start the buzz and momentum for the project. No need for a stadium to wait for the remainder of the project

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

... But I just feel that making such a jump in stadium size so quickly is risking our current "proper" fan base becoming detached from the club altogether and replaced with tourists, businessmen & kids waving flags.

Not sure what you mean by businessmen and kids mate. Not everyone will be your local bricklayer or milkman, especially 7-10 years down the road when said new stadium would complete construction. Its a fact of life, that some of our fans will be of a different ilk.

But agree with most of your other points.

[QPR71]

That's what I was suggesting as the stadium will attract trade and will start the buzz and momentum for the project. No need for a stadium to wait for the remainder of the project

maybe 5 years then?

[West Acton]

maybe 5 years then?

I know nothing about the building trade but I would say once/if its all rubber stamped 5 years max. Like I said sooner it goes up sooner they start making money.

In terms of Steal (Mittel) and concrete (Amit) straight away there are two obstacles we do not really have to negotiate. Would also guess the designers used for the training ground would already be all over this and briefed

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

I do. I want a bigger and more comfortable stadium, with softer seats and better views (like the Emirates has). I imagine that there are 1000s more that also want that.

I guess it is hard for some fans to imagine why there aren't 1000s of QPR fans wanting to pay £40-75 every other week to watch QPR struggling to beat PL teams in an old, cramped, uncomfortable stadium with poor views from 1/3 of the seats not to mention the very poor standard of facilities like catering areas and toilets.

For those who have never been, I would recommend a visit to watch a game at the Emirates Stadium even if it is a League Cup tie.

Mate, the Emirates is sh*t. I sat behind goal but in the uppermost tier for a League Cup tie against my mate's local club. Not only did it remind me of most of the sporting grounds and supporters over here in the States (manufactured, artificial, overpriced), it was a sh*te view. Granted I've never sat in 1 of the obstructed views at LR, but I've never had a bad seat at LR, even with a lower loft seat right behind Paddy Kenny's goal.

Being of an age where I was not able to experience terraced grounds and that age of football grounds, I feel like an Loftus Rd-esque place is where those fans who remember and cherish that type of experience can go to reclaim a wee bit of that feeling again.

[West Acton]

Mate, the Emirates is sh*t. I sat behind goal but in the uppermost tier for a League Cup tie against my mate's local club. Not only did it remind me of most of the sporting grounds and supporters over here in the States (manufactured, artificial, overpriced), it was a sh*te view. Granted I've never sat in 1 of the obstructed views at LR, but I've never had a bad seat at LR, even with a lower loft seat right behind Paddy Kenny's goal.

Being of an age where I was not able to experience terraced grounds and that age of football grounds, I feel like an Loftus Rd-esque place is where those fans who remember and cherish that type of experience can go to reclaim a wee bit of that feeling again.

I think Emirates is a fantastic ground and puts Wembley in the shade.

Bad view in the upper tier???? you sure you were facing the right direction

I have sat all over the top tier at the Emirates and there is not a bad view in the place up their in my humble opinion

[QPR71]

tonys well clear that the atmosphere is important, he know emirates is dead but comfy

[West Acton]

tonys well clear that the atmosphere is important, he know emirates is dead but comfy

I think that's more to do with the fans then the ground. I was there for the Champions League semi final and for the first 15mins it was the best and loudest atmosphere I have ever been too then Rooney scored