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Originally posted by Joon View PostYes, how funny that you continue to contend that Park would not have been able to retain a position on the United squad as a sub and occasional big game starter. A testament to just how little you know about the club and SAF.
Not funny is your continued denial of the fact that Park chose to transfer to QPR because he believed in MH and TF's vision of a rising QPR. You just cannot believe that a star player from Manchester United would transfer to a club like QPR unless he had no choice in the matter.
Park was by far one of our poorest players last season.
Thats all that matters.
If he was so good before joining then he wouldnt haven suddenly turned sh1t
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Originally posted by qpr4life View PostFacts
1. Park WAS a half decent player
2. Park was SOLD to QPR and therefore DEEMED not needed
3. QPR feel they DONT need him and are HAPPY to let Park go, therefore he is again seen as not needed no longer.
4. QPR have better players than Park now
5. Park has a pretty terrible season
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I think its hard to try and work around this one, I like Mackie and I stood up for him a lot of the time.
Facts remain that QPR dont feel that he is needed any longer and therefore he has been sold.
1. Park was better than half-decent, he was a good player at the highest level of club and international football.
2. Park was sold to QPR after Park expressed to SAF that he wanted to make the transfer, he would not have been sold if he did not request the transfer. Without persuasion from TF and MH Park would not have made the request.
3. HR and TF do not feel that they critically need Park but neither do they mind keeping him on the team, as is evident from their not forcing Park's hand to make transfers Park did not want (Vancouver, New York). PSV is offering nothing better than those teams offered.
4. QPR have some better players than Park is now, but Park is still up to par or better than the average QPR player, and I am probably right to claim that it is unlikely that any players in the current QPR squad will ever reach the level of success that Park did as a footballer over his career.
5. Park did have the most terrible season of his career, as did all of the QPR squad. Hopefully next season will be better, for him and for QPR.
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I like Park and did not dislike Mackie either, I did stand up for him a lot of the time as well, to a reasonable extent.
The fact remains that Mackie wanted to make the move and HR would have been okay with keeping Mackie on the team, just as he would have been okay with keeping Park on the team, if they both felt they wanted to stay.
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Originally posted by Joon View PostYes, how funny that you continue to contend that Park would not have been able to retain a position on the United squad as a sub and occasional big game starter. A testament to just how little you know about the club and SAF.
Not funny is your continued denial of the fact that Park chose to transfer to QPR because he believed in MH and TF's vision of a rising QPR. You just cannot believe that a star player from Manchester United would transfer to a club like QPR unless he had no choice in the matter.
Hes not strong enough to be a CM, not creastive enough to be a CAM and the fact he cant ever beat his man means i dont want him on the wings, wo ehere does that leave him? Yes jOON, HE LOOKED ALRIGHT AT uNITED, BECAUSE HE WAS SURROUND BY 10 OTHER QULAITY PLAYERS WHO COULD DO WHAT HE COULD NOT. hE WAS PICKED IN THE BIGGER GAMES, BECAUSE HE WOULD WORK BACK AND DEFEND.......they had other players to score and create goals.
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Originally posted by qpr4life View PostJoon
Park was by far one of our poorest players last season.
Thats all that matters.
If he was so good before joining then he wouldnt haven suddenly turned sh1t
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Originally posted by Ricky View Postbased on this knowledge, lets get Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke out of retirmenet, as SAF rated them and played them in the big games.
Hes not strong enough to be a CM, not creastive enough to be a CAM and the fact he cant ever beat his man means i dont want him on the wings, wo ehere does that leave him? Yes jOON, HE LOOKED ALRIGHT AT uNITED, BECAUSE HE WAS SURROUND BY 10 OTHER QULAITY PLAYERS WHO COULD DO WHAT HE COULD NOT. hE WAS PICKED IN THE BIGGER GAMES, BECAUSE HE WOULD WORK BACK AND DEFEND.......they had other players to score and create goals.
SAF started Park season after season in the biggest of games, because he was better for the job than anyone else on the squad for that game. Poor or average players cannot survive at Manchester United. A lot of good players can't either.
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Originally posted by Joon View PostCORRECTIONS:
1. Park was better than half-decent, he was a good player at the highest level of club and international football.
2. Park was sold to QPR after Park expressed to SAF that he wanted to make the transfer, he would not have been sold if he did not request the transfer. Without persuasion from TF and MH Park would not have made the request.
3. HR and TF do not feel that they critically need Park but neither do they mind keeping him on the team, as is evident from their not forcing Park's hand to make transfers Park did not want (Vancouver, New York). PSV is offering nothing better than those teams offered.
4. QPR have some better players than Park is now, but Park is still up to par or better than the average QPR player, and I am probably right to claim that it is unlikely that any players in the current QPR squad will ever reach the level of success that Park did as a footballer over his career.
5. Park did have the most terrible season of his career, as did all of the QPR squad. Hopefully next season will be better, for him and for QPR.
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I like Park and did not dislike Mackie either, I did stand up for him a lot of the time as well, to a reasonable extent.
The fact remains that Mackie wanted to make the move and HR would have been okay with keeping Mackie on the team, just as he would have been okay with keeping Park on the team, if they both felt they wanted to stay.
Get the **** out of Parks ass for a second and realise that.
Park was sh1t like a lot of players, sadly he was terrible because he didnt even make the bench half the time.
When a player is Sold from somewhere like United to QPR it means the are not needed or as good. FACT. You just cant accept that.
You are blinded by the fact that you fancy Park so badly.
I like Mackie but fact remains that he wont feature next season and therefore we dont need him so we cashed in.
Mackie left as he knew he wouldnt play again as much.
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Originally posted by qpr4life View PostJoon,
Get the **** out of Parks ass for a second and realise that.
Park was sh1t like a lot of players, sadly he was terrible because he didnt even make the bench half the time.
When a player is Sold from somewhere like United to QPR it means the are not needed or as good. FACT. You just cant accept that.
You are blinded by the fact that you fancy Park so badly.
I like Mackie but fact remains that he wont feature next season and therefore we dont need him so we cashed in.
Mackie left as he knew he wouldnt play again as much.
Park did bad last season, how many times will I have to repeat it? Just not more than your beloved Mackie or most other players on the team. As I said before, that is not saying much at all.
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Originally posted by Joon View PostRicky, you are fooling yourself if SAF picks a player to start his important games when there is a better alternative.
SAF started Park season after season in the biggest of games, because he was better for the job than anyone else on the squad for that game. Poor or average players cannot survive at Manchester United. A lot of good players can't either.
do you seriously believe he was an asset to our team last year? Please tell me what you thought his best game for us was?
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Originally posted by Joon View PostHey, just because you like spending time where the sun don't shine, doesn't mean I share your hobbies.
Park did bad last season, how many times will I have to repeat it? Just not more than your beloved Mackie or most other players on the team. As I said before, that is not saying much at all.
http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/sam.sank...n/park-ji-sung
Park was poorer than Mackie
Mbia was even better at least him made the starting eleven
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