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  • Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips View Post
    Remember those days well. Marched to Brentford. More fun then than it is now. Proper club with a soul.

    And you know for sure the current Board, none of whom have any affinity with QPR won't walk away and leave us in the hands of the receivers? Can I have the lottery numbers for tonight please?

    Fernandes is merely the custodian of OUR club. He's accountable to the fans, if not on a piece of Limited Company paper then morally and in spirit. No-one want the club to fail but TF isn't above critical review.

    The same mistakes are being repeated over and over. A wise man once said that the definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over in the hope of different outcome......


    Some fans seem to assume that because he tweets his plans and what he intends to do then it will all turn out ok in the end. They also seem to think that he has become a lifelong rangers fan who like every true fan would never walk away from his club. He's not a football fan he is a businessman and he was looking to buy West Ham or Norwich before he came in for us. Only reason he is here is to make money and at the same time to market his other business's. He is a global businessman and spends his time all over the world. For his other business's he has people in charge to run it for him hence we have Beard. Wrong person imo.
    Last edited by vblockranger; 26-07-2013, 02:36 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
      He blamed TF because we're now in the Championship. How? He's backed the managers and paid out big money in wages, it's not his fault our managers have brought players in which have been disaster signings.

      He's put his trust in the football people of our club. I suppose you were moaning when Flavio was interfering? Which way do you want it then?
      To f ucking right - some rangers fans are planks - full stop
      Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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      • Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
        He blamed TF because we're now in the Championship. How? He's backed the managers and paid out big money in wages, it's not his fault our managers have brought players in which have been disaster signings.

        He's put his trust in the football people of our club. I suppose you were moaning when Flavio was interfering? Which way do you want it then?
        Originally posted by Mem View Post
        No - talked a good talk - bark no bite

        What nonsense - Fernandez has invested more than anyone ever in our history to transform the club

        Millions on players, millions on training facilities, millions on our brand, millions on a new ground

        He has been let down by managers arguably and certainly prima Donna players

        He deserves our support not idiotic posts with no substance

        We need to keep in mind the tony reads this site and if I was him I would seriously consider walking

        Well that's my view anyway
        im not saying fernandes has failed overall but in football success is measured on the pitch which we all know hasnt happened. now im not saying that we should be in europe either. fact of the matter is were no longer in the premiership like we were when he took over.

        and since hughes sacking the transfer fees have stayed the same and so have the wages all that has been added were relegation clauses to the contracts of the players we signed in january. the belt hasnt tightened by much where the budget is concerned
        i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front

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        • Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips View Post
          July 2011 - Fernandes arrives to the home of the winners of the FL Champions, newly promoted to the Premier League
          July 2013 - Fernandes spends millions and millions and we sit back in the Football League Championship.

          i.e. worse off. Simple

          Just because we pay the players more money, doesn't mean they are better than the ones we had. Clearly, they're not. Oh, they might be better technically and they have a reputation because they came from Real Madrid or Spurs or Man City or some godforsaken petro-steroided club in the badlands of Russia but they clearly lack bottle, cojones, mental fortitude or other aspects that make you "A Good Player".

          They're a shambles.
          2011 squad: Paddy Kenny, Clint Hill, Shaun Derry, Fitz Hall, Danny Gabbidon, Adel Taarabt, Kieron Dyer, DJ Campbell, Jay Bothroyd, Alejandro Faurlin, Jamie Mackie, Akos Buzsaky, Bruno Perone, Matt Connolly, Patrick Agyemang, Rob Hulse, Tommy Smith, Heidar Helguson, Radek Cerny, Brian Murphy, Peter Ramage, Danny ****tu, Michael Doughty, Troy Hewitt, Bruno Andrade, Lee Cook, Michael Harriman, Angelo Balanta, Kaspars Gorkss, Antonio German, Matteo Alberti, Alessandro Pellicori, Petter Vaagen Moan, Bradley Orr.

          Current squad: Robert Green, Danny Simpson, Armand Traoré, Shaun Derry, Richard Dunne, Clint Hill, Park Ji-Sung, Andrew Johnson, Adel Taarabt, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Yun Suk-Young, Esteban Granero, Nedum Onuoha, Jermaine Jenas, Joey Barton, Loïc Rémy, José Bosingwa, Karl Henry, Luke Young, Hogan Ephraim, Junior Hoilett, Samba Diakité, Bobby Zamora, Brian Murphy, Michael Harriman, Max Ehmer, Frankie Sutherland, Alejandro Faurlín, Júlio César, Anton Ferdinand, Stéphane Mbia.

          Incomparable! We were in a right mess before TF arrived! Do you honestly think that squad would have stayed up?!

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          • Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post
            We're also going to be far more aware of our potential dealings than other clubs, so we always have this probably false idea that other team's signings come out of nowhere, or are done under the radar, and ours are played out in public.
            Exactly Deeps. I think we have way to many fans on messgaeboards who take the ITK gossip as gospel as its sold as coming directly from the club and therefore associate everything they read with the club as Joe Bloggs info comes X who works in the club. We never get told who X in the club is so any ITK info is taken with a huge pinch of salt by me. There are only two ITKs who I take any notice of Ric Roc and previously Walkonby

            What is reported on this board is not the official mouth piece of the club and therefore it baffles me how people associate it with the club. The club always make a point of saying until its released by official channels its BS we have reached the point now where people believe the ITKs more then they believe there own club which is a sorry state of affairs

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            • Originally posted by West Acton View Post
              But what you say applies to every club in the premier league including us (now demoted). There are not many signings nowadays which take anyone by surprise because the power has shifted from clubs to players.

              If Surez signs for Arsenal it wont be a surprise, If Febregas goes Man Utd it wont be a surprise as Sky are all over it its not just us its everyone but I feel everyone gets hung up on us like we do our business publically when we are no worse then any other club. What makes the business public is Sky because they have a 24hr news station which they need to justify and fill space on hence why such a big deal is made of the transfer window. If they did not dig and break the news they would have a news channel which reported nothing.

              To me the leaks come from players and agents as its in there interest to have everyone knowing what is going on as it brings others into the market which in turn pushes up there salary if their in demand (Hooper is the example)

              I would go as far as to say I would not be surprised if it was revealed at a later date that Sky actually pay the agents for the information and leaks as there is no other way they would have the inside knowledge on everything which is going on as its certainly not in a clubs interest to publicise before they do the deal who they want as we have just found out ourselves

              So suppose what I am saying is our dealings are no more high profile then anyone else were just dealing in a different transfer sphere then the 80s and 90s due to the explosion of social media, ITKs and 24hr news channels/radio stations
              mate the chairmen of these clubs ain't on twitter 24/7 their managers ain't continually driving past the press window down hoping for a question. If you can't see whats wrong with the situation at our club in the last 24 hrs you should go spec savers!!!..He's got form for this too in the jan market......professionals do the business then acclaim the player

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              • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                We were promoted under Amit with Warnock as gaffer. Then TF took charge. Since then we have spent millions and got relegated. Only 4 wins all last season ffs, now you cant just blame Hughes, Beard etc...buck stops with Tony as he hired them, he interfered in the dressing room bringing in players for marketing purposes and he ultimately made the big decisions so although the blame is not all his he still should share a hefty percentage. Just because he tweets and gives a few tickets away some fans treat him like a god. Well he's been a bit of a burke tbh
                B ollox - Tony's clearly not a "football man" so has trusted people in the game ( Hughes ) to deliver on his dream of making Rangers an established premiere league team - he was shafted full stop.
                Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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                • Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                  mate the chairmen of these clubs ain't on twitter 24/7 their managers ain't continually driving past the press window down hoping for a question. If you can't see whats wrong with the situation at our club in the last 24 hrs you should go spec savers!!!..He's got form for this too in the jan market......professionals do the business then acclaim the player
                  Good points Dave and i agree we are not being run professionally

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                  • Originally posted by Kit View Post
                    Agreed Matty I am stunned by some of the comments on here, absolutely stunned ! Why on earth would you invest in a football club, I feel sorry for TF he actually deserves better from some of our fan base.
                    Spot on
                    Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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                    • Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                      I can't see sarcasm at all because of all the tears i'm shedding for ...........pebble wwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa
                      AWWWWW Bless :TT-TT:
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • Originally posted by janemelanie View Post
                        If you think Tony is such a bad chairman what do you think should be done? It is very easy to make destructive criticisms but much more difficult to make constructive suggestions.
                        he needs someone inbetween himself and redknapp. maybe a director of football or maybe just a more experienced negotiator. hes probably in hungary with caterham at the moment. he needs someone here so he can have that balance between f1 and qpr. itll be hard to negotiate a deal for someone whilst in budapest
                        i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front

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                        • Originally posted by Glevum_Hoop View Post
                          B ollox - Tony's clearly not a "football man" so has trusted people in the game ( Hughes ) to deliver on his dream of making Rangers an established premiere league team - he was shafted full stop.
                          So its all Hughes fault? Beard and Fernandes are blameless?

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                          • Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                            Exactly Deeps. I think we have way to many fans on messgaeboards who take the ITK gossip as gospel as its sold as coming directly from the club and therefore associate everything they read with the club as Joe Bloggs info comes X who works in the club. We never get told who X in the club is so any ITK info is taken with a huge pinch of salt by me. There are only two ITKs who I take any notice of Ric Roc and previously Walkonby

                            What is reported on this board is not the official mouth piece of the club and therefore it baffles me how people associate it with the club. The club always make a point of saying until its released by official channels its BS we have reached the point now where people believe the ITKs more then they believe there own club which is a sorry state of affairs
                            West i ain't taking the itk as gospel nor am i blaming Dazzer......I'll bet you TF ain't overly happy that Harry again has chatted to the media before the facts are clear

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                            • Originally posted by Felt View Post
                              Well the chairman of Swansea has known it for ages. That's a club which posts a profit while maintaining Premier League status and didn't hand out massive wages to clapped out players. How far away are we from that? I want this club to run in a sustainable fashion. Fernandes hasn't shown me he's capable of doing that to date.
                              And all he done is burnt his own money!! Not affected you in any way
                              Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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                              • Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                                AWWWWW Bless :TT-TT:
                                Seems sarcasm just nipped past you ......at a rate of knots too ....bout 3 posts back

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