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Originally posted by Bluehoop
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I think last season was pretty humiliating Blue and Fernandes shouldnt take all the blame but he should share some. I think we are a bit of a laughing stock at the moment because of the 4 wins all season and with Fernandes (quite rightly tbf) coming out and admitting his naivety. We lured premiership rejects to come and play for us with big money incentives then held on to a struggling manager for far too long. Mistakes were made by Fernandes no matter what his fans say...hope he has learned and i hope he has the clubs best interests at heart. -
Doubt if you will find any fan who believes he is totally blameless mate.Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
But we need to move on and get behind the bloke. Don't think anyone has any reason to suspect or accuse him of a lack of commitment to making us a long term success.Comment
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So you've now backtracked. At least I stick to a horse when I back it. Did you forget there were 3 other backers...Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
ONE MORE KEY FACT - not another one of your lousy assumptions...
So what if Tony Fernandes uses our players for his other businesses. Noticed you picked up on this but you've happened to forget he got the QPR logo, QPR plane and other material splattered all over AirAsia website which receives circ 11 million unique hits a month across Asia, thus increasing the clubs profile in Asian markets. Not to mention the clubs crest on his own Formula One racing teams car which has in excess of 510million viewers around the world also doing the same, but then again he's just a money grabbing ****.
Pffffhhhh really some of the stuff you come out with is terrible.
Premiership rejects...
Julio Ceasar ?
Loic Remy ?
Chris Samba ?
Those three names alone would walk into most Premiership side. Albeit Samba was woeful for us. Do get a life pal!Comment
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Takes me longer to let go of a grudge than the majority then cos i havent moved on yetOriginally posted by brightonr View Post
And i just dont trust the fella to put us as a priority rather than his business interests and his over flowing bank account. I would say that i dont trust him to keep his nose out of transfers and ridiculous contracts offered to players but i think he may have learnt his lesson in that. All in all its just an opinion and one i hope is proved wrong for the better of the club. Just gets a few Fernandes Fan Boys backs up
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Remy was a great buy too little too late though.Originally posted by Dazzer1977 View Post
Cesar was bought for profile because he became available (we had already signed Green) imo
Samba is a donkey
Townsend was the best bit of business we did in 2 years (thanks Harry)
Fernandes is not the devil incarnate mate and i have said countless times he shouldnt take all the blame i just find it hilariously funny that his fan boys start crying when he gets any blame or criticism. He has made mistakes , he has apolgised for being naive, some have forgiven him, i havent. Its not rocket science, if you want to move on and put the 2 years down to naivety then fair enough. I think he will still make c0ck ups and i worry for the club in his hands. Like you said in an earlier post though we do have other backers in the background making sure he doesnt completely **** up so whats the worst he could do? I am hoping he has learnt from those 2 years anyhow and we will see a new more wise Chairman taking more of a back seat.Comment
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Oh and you forgot the worlds first 3D programme. Now if thats not the saving grace of last seeeason i dont know what is
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I wouldn't say he made us a laughing stock, but we've continued to be one under him, only on a bigger stage. I think he has good intentions, he's just gone the wrong way about it over the last two seasons.Originally posted by Bluehoop View PostComment
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That's what I think too. My question was aimed at V because he suggested it was Fernandes that MADE us a laughing stock whereas, he did little to remove the tag, outwardly at least.Originally posted by Felt View Post
V, I get where you are coming from and see what you mean. However, I look at the longer term plans - including steps being taken at grass roots and with the training ground, improvements in media relations and stuff like that. Yes, **** poor results for the first team and a painful premier league showing entitles you to be angry and even skeptical - the good work he has done will not bear fruit now, next season or even for years to come because it has to be done from scratch.
Perhaps in say ten years time when it starts to make a difference you will have learned to love him
Or perhaps you will have been shown to be right and I will have probably retired from posting 
#standuptocancer
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LOL good post mate...and you are right i am being harsh in that we were already a laughing stock under F and B but we had just been promoted as Champions under Amit and things were certainly looking positive. You are correct i am still angry and i am skeptical and that seems to get his fan boys backs right upOriginally posted by Bluehoop View PostThat's what I think too. My question was aimed at V because he suggested it was Fernandes that MADE us a laughing stock whereas, he did little to remove the tag, outwardly at least.
V, I get where you are coming from and see what you mean. However, I look at the longer term plans - including steps being taken at grass roots and with the training ground, improvements in media relations and stuff like that. Yes, **** poor results for the first team and a painful premier league showing entitles you to be angry and even skeptical - the good work he has done will not bear fruit now, next season or even for years to come because it has to be done from scratch.
Perhaps in say ten years time when it starts to make a difference you will have learned to love him Or perhaps you will have been shown to be right and I will have probably retired from posting (not my intention...honest :-) )
I certainly hope it all comes good for my clubs sake and it just goes to prove how poorly we have been run in the past for us not to have decent training facilities and an Academy already set up.Comment
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Ok V, TF has clearly used Park for marketing here, I accept that, but is this the case for all our signings since he became chairman? And didn't Hughes say he wanted Park in the squad?Originally posted by vblockranger View PostSupporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.Comment
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Think only Park for marketing and some of our "names" for profile raising and i blame Hughes far more than Fernandes for last season.Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
This is a good read...
Shows Fernandes as a bit of a gambler with a few good quotes. Comes across very Delboy Trotter :-)Comment
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Thanks for putting that up V. A great read. I hope you see a lot of positives in that article. He means business and we should support his endeavours.Originally posted by vblockranger View PostThink only Park for marketing and some of our "names" for profile raising and i blame Hughes far more than Fernandes for last season.
This is a good read...
Shows Fernandes as a bit of a gambler with a few good quotes. Comes across very Delboy Trotter :-)Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.Comment
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You negative fans are what's wrong with this club.Comment
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Very good read.Comment
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my patience with tony is wearing thin. and park needs to **** off already.
at least bernie + flav were winners, got us promoted even if we were in a bad state
tony seems happy for us to underperform on the pitch as long as we're in the spotlight. we are definitely an afterthoughtComment
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