Some Fans blame Tony, But...

[Stanley]

Do you think Tony cares about us ? ( can we have the Loft back please ? Tony )

One of his biggest mistakes ever IMHO. He clearly has not listened to fans who obviously understand the history of the club better than him. However he chose to put short-term, short-sighted business interests before this which returned to bite him, and in turn the club, as I believe that decision to make lower-loft the family stand played a significant contribution to our relegation. I'm not just saying this now, I've said it from the day he changed it. That single decision resulted in him taking away one of our strongest advantages to our home matches purely by virtue of the fact that the noise and intimidating atmosphere we generated not only panicked and froze opposition players but also gave a huge confidence injection to our own players - when we attacked the home end it was almost as if we sucked the ball into the net, aided by the tightness of the ground that gives LR unique acoustic properties (again something he never 'got'). Fans have been voicing all these issues for the last 2 years but he's chosen to ignore it, which has played a part in our relegation IMHO. The one great home advantage LR gives us he took away, through his own ignorance of our history, in favour of short-term, ill-advised commercial interests.

[vblockranger]

Am sorry to say but QPR was a nothing club before he raised the profile of the club even by PL standards, Blame the players, Managers but not TF. He has stuck with the Managers, Agreed to Fund the Shopping list of players and brought some of the most high profile players that a Lower half PL Team can only dream of.

Sacking Warnock was the Right decision, His style of play is just too physical and long ball oriented which obviously cannot suit the type of players that QPR have brought in which is skewed towards playing the Passing game.

If at all be worried that Redknapp has come in. We all know what his track record is once he leaves the club, Massive Debts due to unreasonable transfers in and then Leaving the club's finances at a Mess (AKA Portsmouth..) You need a Team, Not a bunch of individuals who have had a reputation. That was your downfall last season.

Excuse me? QPR was here long before Fernandes arrived and will be here long after he leaves if he doesnt completely ruin us with financial mis management. You do know that this section of the forum is for QPR fans to discuss QPR topics? who the **** are you? Indian rangers wasnt it? Well you distract Tony over there with your poxy little club so the real football club over here can maybe get by a whole season without Tony interfering "raising its profile"...thanks.

[vblockranger]

One of his biggest mistakes ever IMHO. He clearly has not listened to fans who obviously understand the history of the club better than him. However he chose to put short-term, short-sighted business interests before this which returned to bite him, and in turn the club, as I believe that decision to make lower-loft the family stand played a significant contribution to our relegation. I'm not just saying this now, I've said it from the day he changed it. That single decision resulted in him taking away one of our strongest advantages to our home matches purely by virtue of the fact that the noise and intimidating atmosphere we generated not only panicked and froze opposition players but also gave a huge confidence injection to our own players - when we attacked the home end it was almost as if we sucked the ball into the net, aided by the tightness of the ground that gives LR unique acoustic properties (again something he never 'got'). Fans have been voicing all these issues for the last 2 years but he's chosen to ignore it, which has played a part in our relegation IMHO. The one great home advantage LR gives us he took away, through his own ignorance of our history, in favour of short-term, ill-advised commercial interests.

100% spot on , his only interests are commercial interests and it is plain to see to those who havent been taken in by his tweeting.

[QPR Richard]

You completely contradict yourself, the signing of Park and making him captain was clearly heavily influenced by Fernandes

And you know this as fact or are you guessing?

[vblockranger]

And you know this as fact or are you guessing?

Here we go with the "wheres your evidence?" . But its ok for you to assume things or believe what you read in the papers? Go have a read through Dave Mc's tweets, he is an established respected journo. Go have a look at the way he views Fernandes and our transfer policy over the last 2 years. You can even ask him "Wheres your evidence?" and you might get a reply :-)

[QPR Richard]

Here we go with the "wheres your evidence?" . But its ok for you to assume things or believe what you read in the papers? Go have a read through Dave Mc's tweets, he is an established respected journo. Go have a look at the way he views Fernandes and our transfer policy over the last 2 years. You can even ask him "Wheres your evidence?" and you might get a reply :-)

The trouble with some of you doom and gloom merchants is you spout off without any basis to your claims.

Just for once, try and support your arguments with a little bit of fact

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Players first, and foremost, carry the vast majority of blame for last season's disgraceful showing, in my opinion.

[skranger]

To you slit ur wrist posters ... I find it hilarious the way ur slagging off TF ... You must have short memories ... Yeah lets have our loft back and the buckets for the donations...
How can anybody on here seriously think we were better off without TF.
He has made mistakes but his intentions are nothing but honourable..
What were our prospects before his arrival .. We were looking at ruin.
If I were him I would be grossly offended reading some of the **** being spouted on here.
Remember the buckets and remember fans having to buy players.
You stick with your conspiracy theories, I'll look to the future .

I know which vision I prefer.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

One of his biggest mistakes ever IMHO. He clearly has not listened to fans who obviously understand the history of the club better than him. However he chose to put short-term, short-sighted business interests before this which returned to bite him, and in turn the club, as I believe that decision to make lower-loft the family stand played a significant contribution to our relegation. I'm not just saying this now, I've said it from the day he changed it. That single decision resulted in him taking away one of our strongest advantages to our home matches purely by virtue of the fact that the noise and intimidating atmosphere we generated not only panicked and froze opposition players but also gave a huge confidence injection to our own players - when we attacked the home end it was almost as if we sucked the ball into the net, aided by the tightness of the ground that gives LR unique acoustic properties (again something he never 'got'). Fans have been voicing all these issues for the last 2 years but he's chosen to ignore it, which has played a part in our relegation IMHO. The one great home advantage LR gives us he took away, through his own ignorance of our history, in favour of short-term, ill-advised commercial interests.

Agree with that consensus of opinion.
Was dismayed and disappointed when the decision was taken to make the Lower Loft 'families only.'
Am dismayed and disappointed that it remains the case.
The 'Loft' was nothing last season, absolutely nothing. The 'oooh, he said the poo word' brigade, have severely neutered its capability to intimidate the opposition at corners and free kicks, and as for penalties down the Loft end, what player worth his salt is going to be intimidated by Toby and his six year old son Crispin gurning inanely, and sky the ball into row z?

[vblockranger]

To you slit ur wrist posters ... I find it hilarious the way ur slagging off TF ... You must have short memories ... Yeah lets have our loft back and the buckets for the donations...
How can anybody on here seriously think we were better off without TF.
He has made mistakes but his intentions are nothing but honourable..
What were our prospects before his arrival .. We were looking at ruin.
If I were him I would be grossly offended reading some of the **** being spouted on here.
Remember the buckets and remember fans having to buy players.
You stick with your conspiracy theories, I'll look to the future .

I know which vision I prefer.

Look at the debts and our outgoings back then when we were out with the buckets.
Look at our debts and outgoings now.
Buckets aint gonna cut it next time.
Look at the 2 previous seasons and the ineptness and realise that Tony is a gambler. Some maybe happy to have a gambler throwing money at the club but some are a bit more worried if like the previous 2 seasons Tony's gamble doesnt pay off.
I actually think we will have a good season in the Championship as i dont think even Tony could **** up what we already have in place and i think Harry is a decent manager. Fernandes real test will be if we get promoted at the end of the season and we rise back to the prem. Will he be able to control all his urges to "raise the profile" to benefit himself and his other business's again? Learnt his lessons? time will tell.

[Jeems]

Look at the debts and our outgoings back then when we were out with the buckets.
Look at our debts and outgoings now.
Buckets aint gonna cut it next time.

Our debts back then would have wiped us out within weeks.
Our debt now is bigger, but it is a manageable debt, that is the big difference.

[QPR71]

And who kept Hughes as manager for far too long , yes Tony , but then i dont believe in his vision for our club.

what is your vision for the club?

[DX7778]

Yikes!! Talk abt having a Bad day, If you see clearly on my post, Pipe down mate I aint trolling nor am i rubbishing anyone's comments here. Just providing an out of the box thinking. Am sure am not stereotyping QPR in the same way you have completely figured out Indians from there.

Calm down, Have a Beer

[zeberdee]

Club seems in no hurry to shift all the players Hughes bought last summer despite winning only 4 games last year. I reckon if they win a couple of friendlies we will hear about how everyone was wrong and the players are not rubbish and they just needed 12 months to gel

[skranger]

what is your vision for the club?

Exactly ...

As for the buckets, we no longer need them. We have rich owners who are financing the club now, they are businessmen, let them manage the debt.

We have again tasted Premiership football, and the ultimate for me - beating the scum

For that Tony i for one am eternally grateful.