Obviously we want England to win tonight but I'd like a tight 1-0 win. Only because if Cesar has a howler I cant see many clubs coming in for him. He knows he's in the shop window tonight. Hopefully he makes a few stunning saves but lets a goal or two in
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As much as im glad he's going due to us needing to get some of the better paid players out i think he's shown real class in his quotes about the club. Good luck to him and if we could get £3million for him i rekon it'd be a good deal all round as for tonights game i thought he done ok and couldn't have done anything about the 2 England goals
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Originally posted by MYU View PostIt was a dream to have one of the best keepers in the world play for my club.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostMany people don't think he's good enough for our club yet Brazil and possibly Arsenal still think he's world-class, which he is.
I think anyone who has watched our games this season would struggle to say hand on heart that Cesar has looked like a world class keeper. He may have made a few good saves in the first half of the season but his form in the later stages of the season has been awful and he made very costly mistakes in a number of key games!
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostI bet Cesar is a flop for Arsenal.
I think anyone who has watched our games this season would struggle to say hand on heart that Cesar has looked like a world class keeper. He may have made a few good saves in the first half of the season but his form in the later stages of the season has been awful and he made very costly mistakes in a number of key games!
They say form is temporary, class is permanent, and I think Cesar is definitely class.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostObviously managers of the calibre of Mourinho, Scholari and now Wenger think he's a good keeper.
They say form is temporary, class is permanent, and I think Cesar is definitely class.
I'm not doubting that Cesar has been a world class keeper. I'm just pointing out performances over the majority of last season were certainly not world class. Also before that Inter made a call on Cesar and let him go for a free as they felt he no longer justified the wage he was being paid.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostClass ain't gonna dig you out of a hole when you're getting old and you ain't as good as you used to be.
I'm not doubting that Cesar has been a world class keeper. I'm just pointing out performances over the majority of last season were certainly not world class. Also before that Inter made a call on Cesar and let him go for a free as they felt he no longer justified the wage he was being paid.
A short while ago the Telegraph ran a world's top 20 keepers story and their sports writer listed Cesar in that group.
He might be a flop at Arsenal, I don't know, but Wenger it seems is willing to take a gamble, and if Scholari is still picking him he can't be that shabby.
Cesar is likely to represent Brazil at next year's World Cup finals, and perhaps play champions league football with Arsenal, yet he's not good enough for QPR?Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostWhy is a respected manager like Scholari selecting him for the Brazil national team, and why would a good and highly experienced manager such as Wenger rumoured to be interested in signing him? They obviously think he still has something to offer.
A short while ago the Telegraph ran a world's top 20 keepers story and their sports writer listed Cesar in that group.
He might be a flop at Arsenal, I don't know, but Wenger it seems is willing to take a gamble, and if Scholari is still picking him he can't be that shabby.
Cesar is likely to represent Brazil at next year's World Cup finals, and perhaps play champions league football with Arsenal, yet he's not good enough for QPR?
Can you honestly say that based on what you have seen this season (both with QPR and Brazil) that Cesar is good enough to play for a top 4 Premier League side or the Brazil national team?
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostI understand your point, what I'm saying is based on what I've seen Cesar is living off former glories and will get found out.
Can you honestly say that based on what you have seen this season (both with QPR and Brazil) that Cesar is good enough to play for a top 4 Premier League side or the Brazil national team?
There was nothing he could do last night to stop either England goal. I doubt there's a keeper on the planet that could have.
We will find out within the next few weeks if Wenger agrees with you or me.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostGranted, he's produced a few bad performances this season, but he's still a very good keeper.
There was nothing he could do last night to stop either England goal. I doubt there's a keeper on the planet that could have.
We will find out within the next few weeks if Wenger agrees with you or me.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostClass ain't gonna dig you out of a hole when you're getting old and you ain't as good as you used to be.
I'm not doubting that Cesar has been a world class keeper. I'm just pointing out performances over the majority of last season were certainly not world class. Also before that Inter made a call on Cesar and let him go for a free as they felt he no longer justified the wage he was being paid."When you went to the corner and saw our fans celebrating the way they were you just wanted to be part of it" - Shaun Derry after we beat the scum 1-0
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