Starting to like what I'm hearing

[Del]

Rigg talked a good game thats for sure.

Yeah, and probably got his stats database from Championship manager, Fifa or Pro Evo.

[Norths]

Yeah, and probably got his stats database from Championship manager, Fifa or Pro Evo.

And an out of date version at that

[maverick69]

Yeah, and probably got his stats database from Championship manager, Fifa or Pro Evo.

More like Subbuteo......

[stanistheman]

I make you right we have to leave loftus rd as soon as possible, you know it's time to go when brentford are talking about a 22k stadium and with west ham moving we would get left behind and end up being like brentford are now.

This is only too true. So many clubs now have new grounds or have plans to build one, yet many QPR fans want to stay at Loftus Road.
How many London clubs have an old small ground? After Brentford get their new one itb will leave QPR, Palace, Leyton Orient & Dagenham & Redbridge. Fulham can at least expand Craven Cottage.

[QPR Richard]

There are those who want to stay at LR and get rid of the chairman. There are others who want to have a new stadium and retain the chairman.

I am in the second group because I want our club to grow and I believe the chairman has a good plan for the club.

I cannot see a good future for our club if we stay at LR and replace the chairman. Some believe this needs to be a football man, but how many football men are around that have deep pockets and a history of running successful businesses?

I have asked the question of a couple of posters here and they don't know. They simply say that TF got us relegated!

[twranger]

be a lot more interesting than your book anyway and might even get the odd positive review on Amazon

Oh at least you've read it then to have that opinion...thanks. All publicity is good publicity!!
It's far more interesting than your back story in print would be" My Dad was a no mark Barrow Boy" Wow!! The worlds most boring book...who'd care anyway!!??

[Rangers77]

Mate, you have to realise, Rigg was only an employee, he wasn't on the board. And he, Kia and Hughes were all in bed with each other and not QPR FC. So ultimately they were never going to have the club's greatest interests at heart. Fernandes naivety and foolishness in not seeing that was his biggest mistake. All he saw and knew about was Hughes' CV, not all the shady Joorabchian baggage that came with him. He was far too easily seduced by them and all their smooth talk. And he had nobody looking out for his own and the club's interests because Beard is completely unqualified in that department, not having the necessary footballing background.

Agree with all of that. I just use different non-condemnatory language..... I still think TFs the solution, not the problem. I'm pretty sure he'd agree with you too bar Beard.... If TF isn't the solution then we're well and truly up sh1t creek without a canoe, never mind a paddle.

[TW7R]

be a lot more interesting than your book anyway and might even get the odd positive review on Amazon

Do you & TW know each other away from here? Just wondering why all the *** for tat arguements? Is it meant or just banter?

Makes me laugh anyway, so not fussed either way, as your both good posters.

Vblock, have you read TWs book?

[stainrodisalegend]

That is a top post Stainrod.....! It wouldn't be cruel at all, it would be hilarious...most of the detractors are all mouth and no substance. Would love to read their books as well....would be a real eye opener!!!!

One or two might have to learn to write first, but that's a different story...

[Stanley]

Agree with all of that. I just use different non-condemnatory language..... I still think TFs the solution, not the problem. I'm pretty sure he'd agree with you too bar Beard.... If TF isn't the solution then we're well and truly up sh1t creek without a canoe, never mind a paddle.

I'm not really condemning TF because I agree with you that he has to stay and repair the damage. I've nothing against Beard either but I think he needed experienced help alongside him - the lack of this left him way too exposed and unprotected from the sharks who know the footballing game only too well - and the painful proof of that has been there for all to witness. By TF's own admission he's been naive and made mistakes which he now says he's learnt from, so I'm essentially just repeating his own words. Don't get me wrong though, I'm all in favour of him staying and fully back him and all his plans for the club. Still think he's our best Chairman since Jim Gregory. Personally I believe he'll learn quickly from these mistakes - businessmen like him never get to where he has without doing just that.

[vblockranger]

Do you & TW know each other away from here? Just wondering why all the *** for tat arguements? Is it meant or just banter?

Makes me laugh anyway, so not fussed either way, as your both good posters.

Vblock, have you read TWs book?

No mate luckily i read the reviews first



Its only banter really tbh as his book has far more positive reviews than negative ones and although i havent met TW he comes across as an extremely pleasant gentleman.

[stainrodisalegend]

What is TW's book? I'll have to look it up.

Back to this thing about "Football people". I don't quite understand the point. No owner is a "football person", nor are his board of directors. You make your money in something else and lose it in football, that's how it works. You then employ football people. But "football people" are not the solution on their own. A very high proportion of them are extremely dodgy, as endless exposes have taught us. Fernandes employed several such football people. I wouldn't be happy for a minute with Harry in some kind of "director of football" role for instance. Mike Rigg was meant to be the person and came with a glittering CV from Man City. We were all delighted he joined and couldn't believe Fernandes had pulled off such a coup in hiring him. Remember? Where Fernandes went wrong was in having too much trust in all these so-called "football people". In retrospect he should have questioned many of the buys. But as we didn't at the time (and we weren't the ones putting our money into it) this name-calling after the event just seems quite vindictive and bitter. I'd rather give the guy a break for at least trying his best and giving him the opportunity to put it right, but each to their own...

[vblockranger]

One or two might have to learn to write first, but that's a different story...

lol did you 2 go to school together? :-)

[twranger]

No mate luckily i read the reviews first



Its only banter really tbh as his book has far more positive reviews than negative ones and although i havent met TW he comes across as an extremely pleasant gentleman.

I will take that in the spirit I hope it is intended V, and I thank you for that!

Right, let's move on.......!

[zeberdee]

As things stand Beard is still in place. Fair enough, but he is not a 'football man'. Hughes is still being paid off monthly. And Tony has now transferred his faith into Harry and his team, who I personally think will be a big improvement on Hughes' team because they're not tied down to one particular and somewhat 'shady' agent, who's looking out for their own interests first, including player transfers. I personally trust the likes of Broomfield and co far more, and I imagine TF probably now sees this too. So in that regard at least we can say that these expensive lessons now appear to have been learnt and we can look forward to a hopefully brighter future.

Redknapp is an old school football guy and a good man to guide him (same would go for Moyes/SAF/Allardyce/Hodgeson all of whom make mistakes of course but none of them would have landed him with the mass of expensive flops he got dumped with in the summer). So if he is listening to Harry then good and same goes for Broomfield and the coaches that are all part of the new team and had nothing to do with last summer.

But sometimes I half read an article with a TF quote or a tweet and he is praising up players like Faurlin/Granero/Hoilett and I think what on earth is he talking about. Now maybe I am wrong and what does it matter what I think anyway. But does Harry rate those players? If he does then he has a funny way of showing it - Faurlin he sent on loan, Hoilett he tried to send to WBA and Granero he replaced with Jenas when he could.
So the thing I wonder is whether he is misquoted or are they TF's own football opinion or is some adviser telling him this stuff - because it don't really sound like Harry's view to me.